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#467802 - 03/24/19 04:51 PM Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo
Harold123 Offline
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Just got 2 Maui 11g2's aray speaker systems. Anyone using them with a external mixer in stereo?...What method are you doing? Thanks Harold

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#467805 - 03/24/19 06:23 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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I have two Maui 5s. Actually I have four Maui 5s, but haven't used them all together.
I normally run left and right outputs into two channels on a stereo mixer, and from there, one channel goes to one speaker, the other goes to the other speaker.
I do almost all e.q. from the keyboard, but the mixer and the Maui allows for tweaking to compensate for different venues.
If I had the 11s I'd do it the same way.
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#467807 - 03/24/19 06:43 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: DonM]
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Similar to Don with original 11's. Master E.q. From keyboard, flat on mixer channels, some effects from mixer (reverb).
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#467819 - 03/25/19 10:10 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: sparky589]
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So you bypass the mains on the mixer in order to tweak your speakers to your liking, also adjusting the speaker volume from your channels...Are you panning one left and one right? sending Mono from your speakers to mixer channels...Thanks Harold

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#467820 - 03/25/19 10:41 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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I go from the left and right outputs of the keyboard into two separate channels on the mixer. Then from the left and right main outputs of the mixer to the two speakers. Left to one speaker, right to the other. No need to pan.
I generally leave the speaker e.q. and volumes set the same all the time. Volume levels can be controlled by the keyboard and/or the mixer.
On some occasions, I just run directly out from the keyboard left and right into the two speakers, not using a mixer. I would always do this except a need the mixer for guest mics, MP3 play on breaks, recording outputs, etc.
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#467822 - 03/25/19 10:57 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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On speakers, sub level is set to half, volume just above half. Those are only controls on original Maui 11's. Keyboard into separate mono channels on mixer one panned left, one right (stereo channels occupied by other equipment). Main l+r outs from mixer to speakers respectively. I also have 2 sub outs from keyboard, I use one for mic(1) and one for bass+ left for additional effect and quick control.


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#467823 - 03/25/19 11:17 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: DonM]
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Got it now...Thank You...The Maui 11G2 series now have a System out sending Stereo. I run the L and R (1/4") from My mixer Main to the left speaker L/R Line in from my Mixer...I use the System out to the line in L on the right speaker via XLR...It sends Stereo...I can Pan each channel on the mixer also...Thanks Guys

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#467826 - 03/25/19 11:50 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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Panning is subjective..if you use separate mono channels and don't do it, you're combining the l+r into each output channel equally so there's no true stereo separation. I pan l+r as exampled in previous pic in smaller venues where I use the Mauis. But in a large venue, like 2 outdoor tents I've played at, I don't pan.I don't want an instrument produced on one side heard by people in only one tent when left speaker is feeding one and right another or placed in another direction. Depends on distance and configuration needed to spread all the music.
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#467831 - 03/25/19 02:24 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: sparky589]
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Sparky...Sounds like you get good results on outside events with your Maui 11's... I'll be doing a Event April 6 in a Church Multipurpose room... About 60 feet wide 90 feet long...It's set up with the small stage in the middle of the long wall sending sound across the 60' distance...Floor carpet and walls app 8' high carpet...It has a pitched ceiling long length ways... with some sound baffles installed...it can seat 200 people easily...Purchased the Maui 11G2's from Frank at Audioworks CT...Thank both and Don for Your Helpful Information

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#467833 - 03/25/19 02:27 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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For something bigger that I described I use different speakers.Your maui's will do great in space you speak of.
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#467840 - 03/25/19 06:08 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: sparky589]
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Thank You Sparky....Harold

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#467865 - 03/26/19 02:17 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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Just got Information back from LD Maui Company...Using a pair of the New version Maui 11g2 speakers. Go from the left and right from the Mixer Mains outs to the Line in's L/R on the Maui 11g2...Then one cable (XLR) using the send out to the Line in of the second Maui 11g2...ALL STEREO buttons Light on...Works Perfect. Thanks Harold

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#468031 - 03/31/19 01:08 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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I have been using 2 Maui LD 5s for close to two years with a Yamaha MG mixer and my Genos.....sound is amazing.

Before, I had 4 Bose Compacts, sounded OK but lack power, at one place I connected all 4 and was not doing near the job that my 2 LD5s alone can do in the same place.
Also with the Yamaha MG Mixer.

If I change again speaker system, is going to be another LD 5s or their eventually replacement.

Manuel
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#468042 - 03/31/19 08:06 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: mdorantes]
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Originally Posted By mdorantes
I had 4 Bose Compacts ... I connected all 4 and was not doing near the job that my 2 LD5s


I won't get into a pi$$ing contest, but I have to say this:
The extra wide dispersion of the Bose gear actually reduces it's effectiveness when using multiple units. I found that with a pair, if they were too close in proximity, led to cancellation, and a poorer sound then using just one, correctly placed.

Stereo "can be" a wonderful addition to some sounds (I love my vocal harmonies panned hard L/R), but speaker placement, and gain staging is crucial to get the best result. I think the Bose compact has been misunderstood by many, since it's debut. When used as suggested ... it performs beautifully. I can only imaging how much sound you actually LOOSE when using 4 units in the same space. Dropouts are a real concern, and the end result is crippling to your overall coverage.

With that said, I'm glad you're happy with your LD sound. I'm sure it has a lot to do with the sound dispersion, and I'm glad it's working better for you.
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#468044 - 03/31/19 08:47 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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+1 Dave.
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#468049 - 03/31/19 11:25 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: travlin'easy]
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Good Information Guy's...Thank You!

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#468050 - 03/31/19 12:36 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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I do have four Maui 5's, but have never used them together and never expect to.
One set remains at my regular venue and the other set is ready for extra jobs.
While still having great dispersal they are slightly more directional than the Bose.
They also have more power, deeper bass, more e.q.s, inputs and outputs. Even Bluetooth.
And they are half the price.
After using Bose Compacts for many years, I find a distinct improvement with the Mauis.
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#468052 - 03/31/19 12:37 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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let the pi$$ing begin!
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#468053 - 03/31/19 12:38 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
I do have four Maui 5's, but have never used them together and never expect to.
One set remains at my regular venue and the other set is ready for extra jobs.
While still having great dispersal they are slightly more directional than the Bose.
They also have more power, deeper bass, more e.q.s, inputs and outputs. Even Bluetooth.
And they are half the price.
After using Bose Compacts for many years, I find a distinct improvement with the Mauis.


+1

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#468056 - 03/31/19 12:39 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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I'm not pissing. I'm offering an opinion in an attempt to help others by passing along the experience I've had. It is NOT required reading.
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#468058 - 03/31/19 01:14 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
I'm not pissing. I'm offering an opinion in an attempt to help others by passing along the experience I've had. It is NOT required reading.

I didn't mean it!!!!!!!
Forgive me?
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#468059 - 03/31/19 01:17 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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No. I never forgive or forget. Well, I'll make an exception this time. smile
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#468060 - 03/31/19 02:31 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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hahahahahahahahaha
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#468063 - 03/31/19 03:38 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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Most of the old codgers on the forum will recall when Scott Yee reported problems with phase cancellation using a pair of Bose L1 PAS systems. If I recall, he eventually corrected the problem by changing his spacing and making some other adjustments.

All the best,

Gary cool
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#468064 - 03/31/19 03:44 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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https://www.ld-systems.com/en/series/mau...66o455pqfc5dj91

LD systems make some incredible speakers systems....
Highly recommended, they won't let you down.
Do It Now cool2


Edited by Dnj (04/01/19 12:32 PM)

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#468166 - 04/03/19 08:25 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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I like how sturdy the extension tubes are in the Bose, since people seem to always want to steady themselves on it, when they approach. None of the others, including the Maui's seem as solid.
Point: Bose
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#468167 - 04/03/19 08:39 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
I like how sturdy the extension tubes are in the Bose, since people seem to always want to steady themselves on it, when they approach. None of the others, including the Maui's seem as solid.
Point: Bose


Gary came up with a great solution to that. Get some bright "Danger High Voltage " stickers for the columns.
There was another sticker I may try to fine.
"Danger, if you touch this it will really hurt and then you die !""
That will make them think twice.
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#468170 - 04/03/19 10:36 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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... another good one is when a client comes up close, looks at the stick and asks "Do you get HBO with this contraption?"
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#468174 - 04/03/19 11:37 AM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Problem solved.... cool2


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#468179 - 04/03/19 12:43 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Harold123]
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I tried that Donny, only mine had plastic chains. They just walked around it! And, that a lot more gear to lug around. The sign worked very well, and you would be amazed at the number of people who walked up, raised their hand to lean on the Bose column, then saw the sign and quickly pulled their hand away. Of course, there were a few that didn't notice the sign - IDIOTS!

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#468184 - 04/03/19 05:16 PM Re: Using Maui 11 g2s with a seperate Mixer in stereo [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
... another good one is when a client comes up close, looks at the stick and asks "Do you get HBO with this contraption?"

I guess the only right response to that is, "No, but it will fit up your ass nicely."

Oh, the things you feel like saying sometimes. smile

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