John I can't disagree more,... they BOTH go Together in playing
an arranger KB for sure. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to be a great arranger kb player/operator..

No, you don't have to be a rocket scientist, but it would sure make things easier if you were. I am always amazed at the number of people that never take the owners manual out of the zip-loc bag it came in with the keyboard. The very first thing they do is jump onto a forum and ask someone else to do it for them. Typical! There has been several occasions where someone would post a question and I would provide the answer and the page in the owners manual where the information could be found. Unfortunately, this was never a deterrent and those same folks would be asking more questions an hour later, often on the same subject.

Knowing the ins and outs of the keyboard's OS, obviously, make navigation faster and easier, thereby making you a better and smoother entertainer. Additionally, when someone comes up and requests a song, one that you may know but have never set up in registrations of the MFD, it only takes a matter of seconds to select a proper style and get into the song if you have already auditioned all the styles.

All of this takes time and effort on the part of the owner. John is absolutely correct when he stated that "knowing more about your keyboard will help." Those that know little about their keyboards are the guys and gals you see sitting on stage pushing a lot of buttons trying to figure out where to go next to put forth the next song. They usually have horrendous dead time between songs, flip through many pages of sheet music, or scrolling their I-Pads to find music for the next song. I saw an arranger keyboard player a couple weeks ago, very attractive, young lady, who experienced at least 2 minutes of dead time between songs and was constantly scrolling through the pages of her electronic fake books. I don't think she ever looked at the audience once during the hour she was on stage.

Technical knowledge is a key ingredient to being a highly skilled and successful arranger keyboard player, OMO.

Gary

I tried to picture how the next PSR should look like, this is my rough visualization.

My point is that Tyros and Motif got touchscreens and now it’s PSR’s turn. For designers and engineers it’s the biggest change in the line, because PSR has for ages stayed practically the same in regard of user interface. But today a screen which cannot be touched is obsolete. Will Yamaha risk it and release the next PSR with this obvious contradiction? I doubt it. And changing user interface means the whole rethinking of the product. But they have done it already with the Tyros. So now it’s about eliminating some of Genos’s features and adding speakers.

Will it keep the name “PSR”? I don’t know. I expect it may be something like PSR-X900. It should be a fresh start.

Also it makes sense that this new one will be equipped with bluetooth.

I did a version with inverted colors because I really wanted something brighter than black.

Yes, Gary, once I was to help a man with PSR-S750, his question was about saving registrations. I looked in the manual and figured that I could either quote it or send it to him as it was with a page number. So I did. And it was like he totally ignored this my effort or was insulted by it. He kept asking questions complaining that whole menu was too complicated and I realized that he was expecting me to be some kind of a tutor. Ironically, he was supposed to perform in public with a band.

Arranger keyboards are not like iPads which are mostly used only to get content, not to produce one. These keyboards may seem attractive in a store, but in fact a player should really have an aching desire to go deep into it, because unlike iPhone, only a small part of population is capable to appreciate this product.

It’s an uneasy question in fact. Because it seems reasonable that one can start playing keyboards only if he has one, and we know that a good instrument can inspire some progress. But in the same time we know that no matter how good the instrument is, if a person is not a player, eventually he’ll give up on it completely.

So, there’s no judging on people who are struggling to use their purchases, somehow they were lucky to get an instrument of somebody else’s dream and there will be some process of admitting, denial, or an miraculous inspiration.

Well Gary, I am amazed at how some things that are easy for some to understand can be so difficult for others (especially me) I struggled with the registrations and saving them. Still do to an extent. Just saying, I read fairly well. I have several degrees so most would say I'm not an idiot BUT the PSR OP is very complicated and for me very hard to completely get my head around. I had none of these problems when working with a simple spinet organ and a side piano. I love the 3000 I got from you and I learn a little more each time I set down at it. But
I'm afraid I will be asking some more stupid questions in the future. I think I might reference the manual & the tutorial site in future questions so you guys will understand that I have read the manual. BTW, sometimes it just knowing where in the manual the answer to a question might be.

After many years of Technics I decided to move to Yamaha, then to Korg. It was difficult, very difficult. THEN I LEARNED THE SECRET. Forget what and how you worked with Technics and learn what the new keyboard is trying to teach you.

Yamaha and Korg did not create keyboards that are difficult to use, it is the user that creates the problem. Sorry. IT IS NOT ABOVE YOU, just change you thinking. Marriages are very much the same. (smile)

John C.

My learning curve from technics to KORG was very steep at first ... But with help from people on this forum, especially Donny, I was able to get through it, and then I began to realize the similarities between technics and KORG ... it was mostly the terminology that was different ...

My Pleasure Tony anytime!
I had many mentors thru the years like Uncle Dave, Fran, Don Mason,
Dan O'Neil, Prince AJ, & Mr. Wizard (Gary Diamond) & a few others to get me thru it
especially changing keyboards so frequently & needing to be fully ready in a day or so afterwards.
But in the end I became very proficient in almost
ALL of these OS systems...and be lightning fast and articulate navigating the OS WHILE YOUR PLAYING ALSO!!