I am trying to use my keyboard controller and wind controller at the same time. The SD40 plays accomp and lead voices very well, but I want to switch off and play my harmonica wind controller on the same song.

The SD40 recognizes and play either fine from two of the USB ports, but since they are both assigned to global ch 1, obviously, it is either or. I can change TX channel on the DM48 controller, but can't find a corresponding different receive channel on the SD40, and the manual doesn't help me.

I know nothing except the mere basics of midi, but it seems I have to transmit on two different channels, use a midi merge unit, of play one at a time.

Bernie, I wish I knew more myself. Probably a good question for AJ.
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Good Luck,
JM

Bernie - Read this a couple of times trying to understand better. Do I have this, right? You are playing using a keyboard controller via USB and controlling both left and right-hand parts with no issue. Then at some point, you want to change to a different controller. What happens when you do that? Maybe a better question is, what doesn't happen when you do that? I think you want to use both controllers at the same time? If that is correct, what do you want the keyboard controller to do and what do you want the wind controller to do?

Hiya Curt
Thanks for the reply.
Yes, play both at the same time. Say I am playing a registration from the SD40 with 4 instruments to navigate to on the screen. since I can play most anything by ear on the harmonica, I have a DM48 wind controller to jump to for embellished riffs etc.

Technically, both are on ch1, so when I jump to the DM48, I have to unplug the Controller and plug in the wind controller, naturally, since they are both on the same channel. Both are readily recognized and work perfectly.
I hope this helps.
Bernie

Bernie, I understand what you are trying to do here, and I am sure that you know that vArranger can do this and a lot more with such ease and flexibility, which is why I like software solutions in many situations. Anyway, I would love to be wrong about this, but I don’t think the SD40 can do what you are trying to do. However, you can connect the DM48 to the MIDI In 1 (GM) on the SD40 via your Keton USB MIDI host. This way, the two USB MIDI controllers will be totally independent from each other, and you can play any solo patch from the DM48 by sending PC messages.

Does the DM48 send PC messages? It looks like a serious MIDI controller. Can you play it without holding it with your hands like the Jamboxx Pro, which I own?

Chris

Hi Chris
I have to limit the gear to the SD40 and perhaps Kenton Midi Host.
I have to play it like a harmonica, as opposed to keys, as this allow me to play freely by ear.
The DM48 has midi cc messages, which is now on ch2-wind controller, midi program numbers, midi ctrl keys 22-24, whatever that means.

However, it works fine on my Pa4X using Upper2 voice, for gigs with a keyboard. Curt will undoubtedly get back to me also. I appreciate your help.

Bernie

Bernie would this help you ...

https://kksound.com/products/hotharmonica.php

Bernie - One option is to switch from USB to using basic MIDI connections. As you know the SD40 has two MIDI ins. Under the covers that gives you access to 32 independent MIDI channels. You could run one of the controllers to In1 (this is limited to using the GM voices) and the other to In2 (This will allow access to the arranger and the voice presets). In the MIDI map, you would use the "GM Part" button to configure whatever channel is needed for In1 and the "Arranger" button to configure whatever MIDI channel is needed for the In2 port. Of course, that assumes you can run MIDI vs. USB connections?

Thanks Donnie, but I use a Sennheiser 935 for both vocal and harmonica. I have about 40 different ones, and can't commit installation to one. For strictly harmonica, I can see the advantage if it sounds as good as they say. One disadvantage I can see is like working a mic as opposed to a head worn. Unless your name is Gary, it is more difficult to shape your sound.

Thanks Curt
It looks like this is the only way to go. My Kenton Midi Host receives the USB from the DM48 and provides midi sockets for SD40. In fact, before I was told that the SD40 was class compliant, I used the Kenton for just the DM48 into midi in#2. Chris had also mentioned this. The only thing to figure out is in#1 setup.

Controller midi out In#2 keyboard and SD40 to #1. Midi port for #1:
Midi play to style and voice out is piano voice, to keyboard is the same as my controller. If I could direct my instruments, I would be home free. My ignorance showing badly, sorry.

I have to leave for a gig, will take this up again later this afternoon