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#475255 - 09/02/19 01:50 AM Re: Does anyone USE 76 keys when playing arranger? [Re: DonM]
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It's strange, I remember when Yamaha only made a 61 note TOTL a lot of posters complained about them for not making a 76 Note version, now many of these posters are saying why do you need 76 Notes, there is just no pleasing some. frown

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#475256 - 09/02/19 01:59 AM Re: Does anyone USE 76 keys when playing arranger? [Re: DonM]
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Unlike me, Don, you have an extra option to your keyboard – your voice. I’m not a singer like you, so I substitute my vocal with a piano voice, playing popular songs like Richard Clayderman does. Fortunately, the audience gets it too. But with 61 keys I tend to run out of keys quite often, have to switch octaves or play it lower. Just recently I discover some solution – to use full keyboard chord recognition. Takes some effort, but gives me an extra keys for playing what I need to play.

For a solo piano playing I’m thinking of getting a 76 keys not arranger keyboard: there are Roland Juno for $860, MODX for $1650. As for 76-keys arrangers, they are much more of a financial challenge: Pa4x $3360; Genos $4950. These are the prices here. Somehow not-arranger market is more flexible in this aspect.

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#475260 - 09/02/19 03:13 AM Re: Does anyone USE 76 keys when playing arranger? [Re: DonM]
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The only reason I use 76ers is because I play an octave higher on the keyboard and lower the sound an octave. I could technically use a 61 as is, but is more comfortable for me my way.
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#475262 - 09/02/19 03:57 AM Re: Does anyone USE 76 keys when playing arranger? [Re: Kabinopus]
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Originally Posted By Kabinopus
Unlike me, Don, you have an extra option to your keyboard – your voice. I’m not a singer like you, so I substitute my vocal with a piano voice, playing popular songs like Richard Clayderman does.

Great to find someone who also enjoys Clayderman’s style of music, I was a big fan.
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#475277 - 09/02/19 08:52 AM Re: Does anyone USE 76 keys when playing arranger? [Re: DonM]
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Yes, for Piano Style its necessary. Nice to have the flexibility to change my playing. And I think it just looks better, more professional, but thats just me.
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#475282 - 09/02/19 09:53 AM Re: Does anyone USE 76 keys when playing arranger? [Re: abacus]
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Originally Posted By abacus
It's strange, I remember when Yamaha only made a 61 note TOTL a lot of posters complained about them for not making a 76 Note version, now many of these posters are saying why do you need 76 Notes, there is just no pleasing some. frown

Bill


Its a personal thing Bill, i was one of the advocates of a 76key (and 88 key ) arranger...and still am, that because as said i temd to use more then just left right parts and OTS..

I guess there have allways been 2 camps.. and most people based on their needs are still in the same camp
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#475286 - 09/02/19 10:43 AM Re: Does anyone USE 76 keys when playing arranger? [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
Yes, for Piano Style its necessary. Nice to have the flexibility to change my playing. And I think it just looks better, more professional, but thats just me.






+1.... And now I am heading out the door to play a senior "gig" with a 61 key.... grin


Edited by Fran Carango (09/02/19 10:44 AM)
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#475304 - 09/02/19 02:20 PM Re: Does anyone USE 76 keys when playing arranger? [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
Yes, for Piano Style its necessary. Nice to have the flexibility to change my playing. And I think it just looks better, more professional, but thats just me.






+1.... And now I am heading out the door to play a senior "gig" with a 61 key.... grin





Dang it!!! The E-A7 (61 keys) was perfect for the senior jobs.. Worked flawlessly, mic sounds good , and great on board speakers for monitors.. I carry the Marantz, but used it just to support the on board speakers.. they are that good in these settings.

And single button transpose.. grin


Edited by Fran Carango (09/02/19 02:21 PM)
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#475307 - 09/02/19 02:42 PM Re: Does anyone USE 76 keys when playing arranger? [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango


Dang it!!! The E-A7 (61 keys) was perfect for the senior jobs.. Worked flawlessly, mic sounds good , and great on board speakers for monitors.. I carry the Marantz, but used it just to support the on board speakers.. they are that good in these settings.

And single button transpose.. grin


First thing I noticed when I got the PA900 was that the mic pre didn't sound as good as the E-A7 to my ears.

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#475309 - 09/02/19 03:44 PM Re: Does anyone USE 76 keys when playing arranger? [Re: DonM]
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Maybe 76 or 88 isn't necessary for most OMB type players, especially that sing , but I think it's a great option for those players that want to go back a forth between solo piano and style play.
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