I am looking at an ad from our biggest electronic and computer store here and there is an ad for a 2 GB Secure Digital Card that is high speed 133X,
$129.00 net at Fry's Electronics also on line as Outpost.com

Bebop

Bebop,
I'm curious, what you would put on it to absorb 2GB? I feel musically insignifcant with my 256MB on the KN7000 (and only half used) and 128MB on the G-70 (only about one third used!!). I certainly would be interested in learning what keyboard players put on these large cards.
Regards
Keith

It's quite straightforward Keith - say you get a gig that requires some live playing and some 'disco' maybe lasting over 5 hours in total - not unusual particularly New Year's Eve or similar.
You need a very large SD Card to hold botn your arranger registrations for live play and in addition all your prerecorded material that you've loaded through jukebox.
Now if addition to that you intend to display changing pictures whilst using sequenced material then you'd pretty soon gobble up 2GB.
Rog

Technics files, midi files and photos are insignificant in relation to a 2GB card and the maximum number possible will be reached way before you are anywhere near 2GB. The difference is audio where 2GB is not enough space to accomodate all the audio songs possible.

As Keyboards get evermore complex, and incorporate higher quality sample voices, (Typically 24bit 96Khz) the more memory is required to store them, (Not forgetting all the Audio and Mp3 files that need to be stored) this is why most keyboards these days come with hard disk drives, as normal solid state memory is just not large enough. (For instance my Wersi Abacus has a 40Gb drive but all the latest models have an 80Gb drive, with 200Gb upgrade option) compared to these hard disks even 2Gb is small.
WORD OF WARNING Not all SD Interfaces can Read or Write to these faster cards, and can also be limited to 512Mb, so before purchasing, check your interface will accept them.

Bill

Yea that's the word Alec - 'audio' - in other words downloads from CD's...My command of the english language gets worse the older I get - thanks...
Rog

7k and tyros 2 are rom sounds and not samplers and windows machines and just have 2 track audio playback or recording so the requirements on large space are rather less. 40 gig is rather light for the capabilities of abacus in my opinion. SD playback for instance is aac and thus the space required is only a tenth of that required for wave, at no subjective difference, so again raw GB figures mean little without looking at the exact feature differences involved.

it happens to all of us there are some very good karaoke audio recordings about with full original arrangements which sound wonderful with 7k lead voices.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by technicsplayer:
[B] it happens to all of us there are some very good karaoke audio recordings about with full original arrangements which sound wonderful with 7k lead voices.

That sounds interesting Alec. Always been a play it live or forget it man 'til now but there are some things in the Rock line I just can't do to my satisfaction.Could you point me in the direction of the above sites, and I'll polish up my vocals
regards
Eddie

the sunfly collection is very good and can be recommended: http://www.sunflykaraoke.com/
naturally you'll need the Jukebox package to get the audio on SD, but also a cd+g capable optical drive (nero info tool will tell) and ripper like audiograbber.

Yes thanks Alec - Hey Eddie talking about satisfaction and the Rolling Stones - that's one I have difficulty playing live even though I have a very good style file for it - must be the sliding notes that Mick uses in the chorus...
Rog

Thanks Alec. Got the Jukebox & Audiograbber so will investigate sunfly now.
Rog
Know what you mean about the stones.How does he still prance around the stage like that? has he paid off the God of arthritis or something.Still, got to have some consolation for all those wrinkles Come to think of it all my groupies have wrinkles like that these days too. C'est La Vie I guess.

What is meant by a "secured" card?

And why do they advertise "high speed"?
(This is the first time I heard of advertising any "Speed" on an SD Card)

I would think the hardest task of using a 2 GB card, would be for the user to locate a specific file, especially if the card is full.
But once you find the file, dosen't it load just as fast as any other SD Card, regardless of the capacity of the card?
In other words, dosen't a file load as fast on a 2GB card as a 32mb card?

So again, where does the "Speed" come in?

Just curious.
Larry

Hello Larry
The SD Card is an abbreviation of the full name, which is Secure Digital Card.
New SD cards can read & write faster then the original cards (Size is immaterial) and were developed because other devices, (SD Cards are used in a multitude of products) demanded faster memory. A Good Example is the Digital Camera, which in the old days took a few seconds to copy the data to the card before another picture could be taken, were as with modern Digital Cameras, pictures can be taken at 4, 5 or more times per second and so requires considerably faster memory.

Bill

a secure card can accept encrypted data such as protected audio. All premium cards are sold based on their superior speed ratings. If the host and controller chips in partnering equipment can handle the speed transfers will be faster. For the KN a 133 speed is overkill and a complete waste of money, though you may notice a difference on pc transfer though you will be very hard pressed to actually find a card reader or host chip-set that fast, for read perhaps with the latest state of the art, but not for write so far.

File location is immaterial in my view. I have 256, 512 and 1G with the folder and playlist structure substantially filled. With alphabet, number load and playlists it is no different finding something compared to a 64 or 128 card filled with many hundreds of styles.