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#475844 - 09/10/19 11:27 PM Re: Meet my new keyboard (neither arranger nor Yamaha) [Re: Kabinopus]
Mark79100 Offline
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Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1661
Loc: USA
Kabinopus....coincidentally I've been looking at this keyboard also. I was all set to buy a Yamaha P125 when I saw this (and some other new keyboards also).

You're a pianist like myself. If you had to do it over again, would you go with this Roland Juno DS 73 keys? Are the keys weighted enough to give it a piano feel. The sound seems to be a "thumbs up."

I'm not really good at "checking out keyboards." Not even good at figuring out reviews (like yours).

Same as in YOUR situation, I can find most of the Yamaha's and Casio's in the store, but it will be a crapshoot for me if I order something I haven't played.

Roland Juno DS keyboard

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#475853 - 09/11/19 03:46 AM Re: Meet my new keyboard (neither arranger nor Yamaha) [Re: Kabinopus]
Kabinopus Offline
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Registered: 11/11/04
Posts: 708
Loc: Russia
Mark, so far it bugs me that one note (one piano sample) of a default piano (which sounds the best to me) is a bit too loud and too bright; it keeps me from calling this product perfect. I think I found a way to partly solve this problem with a transpose (this way this note shifts to a black key and I don’t hit it this hard that often), although with any product at first I always have a phase when I’m too critical, usually later I forget about most of these things.

The keybed is tougher than PSR but it is not weighted. This is what I wanted exactly, but not for a true pianist, I think.

The overall sound of a piano is the reason I bought it. It’s very different from what I get from PSR, your left hand just starts to sound right, with a proper bass, staying in the background (not fighting with a right hand, I mean).

Also, as I’ve been saying, there’s an additional piano as an expansion. I found no such problem with it as with a default one, but so far I like the default one better.

I assume that at this price I can’t demand any perfection, otherwise, what would be a point of such products as Yamaha CP73, which are much more expensive. So it’s a choice between one compromise or another. Frankly, even having extra money I’m not sure I would buy something different, because there’re always other things to buy as well (like a guitar which I can’t help wanting).

I tried Yamaha P-121 just once at a store. I could be wrong, but I seemed to me too close to my PSR-S950 sound wise, so I didn’t invest more time to study it.

So far, with all concerns, I keep playing Juno as crazy, not only because I plan to start playing it in public, but just because it’s so refreshing to have this piano sound and not to depend on any additional rhythms or styles.

Also, I must say, that I didn’t like any of YouTube demo of this keyboard, so now I believe more in trying it personally before judging.

Donny Thank you for your kind words. The translation is almost perfect, although in Russian there are to kinds of “you”, like in French (tu and vous) and in your message they a both used.

Solomon8 Thank you

Rikki Thank you, too. So far I try to separate music and computers as long as I’m not recording. Also, I want it all to be stable enough to play live in public.

Fran Thank you for your suggestion. So far I tried almost all of the voices, they are not bad, but I still think that as for acoustic piano, the default voice (DS Grand Pho) is the most sophisticated one in this machine. As for saxes, they are good, but Yamaha did something, I dare say, outstanding, it’s hard to beat.


Edited by Kabinopus (09/12/19 04:46 AM)
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#475855 - 09/11/19 04:48 AM Re: Meet my new keyboard (neither arranger nor Yamaha) [Re: Kabinopus]
Kabinopus Offline
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Registered: 11/11/04
Posts: 708
Loc: Russia
Also, would like to add on a topic of perfection.

I read about Genos, that even a slightest move of a slider instantly affects a keyboard's parameter. For example, if a volume slider is set to zero, then you turn on the keyboard and start to play, but then even by a mere shake the slider is moved - the volume (or other parameter) is set to almost zero!

So I checked it on Juno: the first changes of a knob or a slider are ignored - so you have to really move it intentionally.

This is how perfection is not really guaranteed no matter how much you pay. But at least at reasonable prices you are more ready to compromise.


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