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#479616 - 11/02/19 02:22 PM
Re: Does good playing equal good entertainment?
[Re: Mark79100]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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I agree that she is a very good pianist, but too busy putting in arps that are not needed.
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#479629 - 11/02/19 07:14 PM
Re: Does good playing equal good entertainment?
[Re: Mark79100]
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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You're right about one thing, Mark; the focus should definitely be on her interpretation and not her playing. If I had to grade on each, it would be playing - B, Interpretation - D-. Sadly, I agree with the last guy that posted. First, the song itself is 'fluff'. One good test of a (pop) song is whether any TOP jazz players will touch it. If little to none (as with this song), that means it was created from the ground up for the great unwashed - hence, the majority of posters who liked it. The song's chord structure lends itself to a lot of 'fluff' playing so there are probably lots of overblown interpretations of it out there. It's a great vehicle for showing off one's digital dexterity or technical virtuosity but not necessarily their 'feelings'.
I know this seems more like a critique of the song than of her performance, but with a song as popular as this one, it's hard not to point out it's role in this. JMO. BTW, I love these kinds of posts as they shine a light on how we evaluate, respond to, and ultimately how we PLAY music.
Forgot to mention 'til I read Bill's post above; Eva Cassidy was maybe one of the best ever at what she did---which is, touch the soul.
chas
Edited by cgiles (11/02/19 07:19 PM)
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#479649 - 11/02/19 09:34 PM
Re: Does good playing equal good entertainment?
[Re: Mark79100]
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Playing and entertaining are two different animals. I know great players who can't find an audience. I know average or below average players who stay busy, because they entertain. My friend DickieT, although he plays great bass guitar and now even mandolin, really can't play a lick on the keyboard. He used one finger chords and turns all the style parts up loud, and only plays an occasional few notes with right hand. He also uses a lot of karaoke songs (which is the main reason he bought the Yamaha PSR SX900). Point is that he stays as busy as he wants and everybody loves to hear him. He is a good MC, but really an average singer. He could easily get a job as a bass player, for $50. a night! Instead he does that for fun, jamming on upright bass or mandolin with fellow Bluegrass guys. That is the country version of Jazz; lots of great players who don't make any money. My good friend Gary Diamond, although he plays more keyboard than Dickie, will tell you he was successful because of his entertaining skills, including a fine voice, and attention to the business and promotion end of things. I'm kind of in the middle, I can play a lot of songs and sing decent any more, but certainly not a piano player. I was a better guitar and trumpet player than piano. (Actually never played piano). I've been lucky enough to discover arrangers and have found a niche in which I've been successful to a small degree. It all depends on what gives you satisfaction and makes you feel good. If that is entertaining people, great. If it is achieving high levels of expertise, great. Very few do both, and they are mostly doing a concert or on TV. Only one I know here is Captain Russ. Although, Uncle Dave is in the conversation as well. Other could well have been, but life choices, make being successful in music a second choice for most (smart) people. Another rant over. I'm in a ranting mood today.
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#479655 - 11/04/19 09:58 AM
Re: Does good playing equal good entertainment?
[Re: travlin'easy]
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