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#481386 - 11/21/19 02:14 PM Re: 1st recording SX900 with harmony vox [Re: Uncle Dave]
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LOL - I know that drum pattern is kind of outta left field, but it popped up, and I just hit "record". I generally perform this with a more laid back, jazzy kind of feel.
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#481387 - 11/21/19 02:18 PM Re: 1st recording SX900 with harmony vox [Re: Uncle Dave]
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I for one liked the style, even though not being traditional.
I liked the out of the box thinking and playing.
Nothing wrong with putting a modern spin to it.
Gotta go with the times. wink
Keep it up UD ... smile
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#481388 - 11/21/19 02:22 PM Re: 1st recording SX900 with harmony vox [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Hi Dave,
sounded great. Never heard any of your songs before.

Thought, no , he’s having us on, that voice sounds like it belongs to a 30 year old. Haha

Brilliant, hope we hear more.

Btw, would have thought strange choice of style for Xmas song, but it worked.


Edited by rikkisbears (11/21/19 02:24 PM)
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#481389 - 11/21/19 02:31 PM Re: 1st recording SX900 with harmony vox [Re: rikkisbears]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Originally Posted By rikkisbears
strange choice of style for Xmas song, but it worked.


Thanks Rikki - wow, 30 yr old? Yikes. I have shirts older than that. re: the arrangement choice, I have a recording of this song done that way by one of the pop diva's from the 90s. I didn't come up with it on my own. I also have no idea what style Skypop is trying to emulate. Sounds like a Madonna disco track to me. lol
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#481391 - 11/21/19 02:35 PM Re: 1st recording SX900 with harmony vox [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Dave, sounds great! Nice vocals with harmonizer as well. My only thought...crank those drums up. Really nice clear sound!
Mitch

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#481392 - 11/21/19 02:38 PM Re: 1st recording SX900 with harmony vox [Re: Uncle Dave]
Uncle Dave Offline
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I thought I'd do a quick explanation of how I had to "dumb down" my vocals to suit the VH2.
1st - it scoops very poorly, compared to other units, so I tried to stay in the grid for note chages.
2nd - it lacks dynamic range, (probably too much compression,) so I used less in my approach.
3rd - it doesn't punch in, and out as cleanly as my TC unity, so I engaged the harmony before the note was sung. This helps make it more believable.
I've said many times, using a harmonizer is an entirely different skill set for lead singing. You need to think like an ensemble, use less vibrato, vary the melody less, and in general ... do less. When you add 2 or three voices to your own, it can sound cluttered if you're not careful. There's also the added volume that the extra voices contribute, so you need to back off a bit to make a proper blend.

I'm going to tame this beast. It'll never be my go-to vocal unit, but no one will ever know I'm working so hard, IF I do my homework, and learn the workarounds.
Thanks again to all who listened.
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#481393 - 11/21/19 02:40 PM Re: 1st recording SX900 with harmony vox [Re: jingleman]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Originally Posted By jingleman
Dave, sounds great! Nice vocals with harmonizer as well. My only thought...crank those drums up. Really nice clear sound!
Mitch


Funny you should mention that Mitch ... my biggest complaint with arranger users is that the drums always seem too loud for my taste. I like a laid back, INSIDE the mix type drummer for most things. Give me Ringo over Phil Collins anyday.
(love them both, but as a vocalist - I'd rather sing with Ringo)
Thanks for your kind words!
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#481396 - 11/21/19 03:25 PM Re: 1st recording SX900 with harmony vox [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Loc: Niceville, FL USA
Dave - Great job! Wow! Didn't realize you had such a great voice! Super job on the playing and the singing! It's nice to know the Yammie can provide such nice support to a vocal too! You're all ready to "Wow them" at the holiday parties already! Keep up the great work and thanks for the early Xmas surprise! Super performance!

PS - nice phrasing along the way too!

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#481397 - 11/21/19 03:30 PM Re: 1st recording SX900 with harmony vox [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Fantastic job Dave, no complaints from me. You sure got the most out of the Yamaha harmony as well.

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#481398 - 11/21/19 04:35 PM Re: 1st recording SX900 with harmony vox [Re: W Tracy Parnell]
sparky589 Offline
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Loc: NJ
That was really cool. I wouldnt differ from your own evaluation re less comp and vh level..
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