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#481981 - 11/26/19 04:18 AM Re: Purchasing Dilemma ? [Re: john smies]
Impuls Offline
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Keep what you get , ther isnt much improvement when you exchange your Korg & Yammie fore a SX900 .
Met wat je nu hebt kan je alles wat muzikaal nodig is.

Impuls smile
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#481996 - 11/26/19 06:01 AM Re: Purchasing Dilemma ? [Re: Dnj]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Originally Posted By Dnj
Dump all your KB's & Guitars too and get a
mint used Genos at a lower price!
start from scratch again it's fun to create
your not playing out so you have a lot of time to play
you deserve a nice Christmas Present for yourself!!

When you think of how old we are,
and how every single day could be your last,
and how much longer we have on this earth,
why wait?
getting the Best is an easy choice..

Life is short my friend enjoy it. wink





It is sad to view the best of your remaining days, sitting in front of a keyboard.. When there are far better reasons to live out your life.. Maybe the influence you can have on grandkids, teaching the right thing to do, and some dangers they could see before them.
Maybe helping other (life is short) folks.

Still it would be nice to sit in front of a Genos grin

Here is the one thing folks just don't get.. Why not learn what your Genos or current keyboard can do feature wise.. Learn how to use them... and USE them. smile
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#482015 - 11/26/19 07:39 AM Re: Purchasing Dilemma ? [Re: Impuls]
john smies Offline
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Registered: 05/05/00
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Loc: koudekerke, Holland.
Originally Posted By Impuls
Keep what you get , ther isnt much improvement when you exchange your Korg & Yammie fore a SX900 .
Met wat je nu hebt kan je alles wat muzikaal nodig is.

Impuls smile



I had already come to that conclusion but thanks anyway !!!
(spreek je wellicht nog op het Nederlandse keyboard forum....)

Fran:
"....Here is the one thing folks just don't get.. Why not learn what your Genos or current keyboard can do feature wise.. Learn how to use them... and USE them ..."

You're preaching from my bible here buddy !! Have been programming on the Korgs for 20 years, and there is many a soul who can testify to that and to the result.
However sometimes a change is attractive and challinging, but in this instance the cost is too high and as others have managed the advantages compared to my current set up are limited. Abacus hit the nail right on the head on the outset of this thread....
Thanks all the same for sharing your thoughts on this..

regards,
John

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#482018 - 11/26/19 08:01 AM Re: Purchasing Dilemma ? [Re: john smies]
Dnj Offline
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So John with all that said what KB are you buying for Christmas Music wise..?

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#482023 - 11/26/19 08:42 AM Re: Purchasing Dilemma ? [Re: john smies]
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Registered: 11/19/17
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Originally Posted By john smies
Originally Posted By Crossover
Originally Posted By john smies
Originally Posted By Crossover
I‘d recommend you to exchange the SD2 with a module from V3 Sounds, e.g. Sonority XXL. The samples are far superior.


I had the V3 Sonority and beg to differ. Yes the piano samples are very good and so are the accordeons and organs but with hindsight I much prefer my SD2 , also in view of how it truly compliments the PA1000.


I don't know the PA1000, but I had the SD1000, which is superior to the SD2, and now have the V3 Sonority XL, and besides the sounds you mentioned, especially the brass and woodwinds sounds appear much more sophisticated to me than the SD1000. With the Ketron module, I missed velocity layers for the trumpet, for example, it sounded nice, but always triggered the same sample. V3 Sonority uses 4 layers for solo trumpet and many instruments, and also has round robin technology. But, of course, in the end it's also a matter of taste, and, as you said, the combination with your other instrument.



Thank you Crossover for your comments. Just to be clear on it, the V3 Sonority is not a bad soundmodule and in some ways even superior to the Ketrons. It all depends on your priorities and as I mentioned the V3 certainly has the edge with piano, accordeon and organs. Of course price also comes into it and unless you set very great store by one of those categories mentioned I cannot think of many that will splash out 450 euros for it, behold I had my SD2 for 125 euros (!). The fact that a store in our country offers the V3 module in combination with the Genos makes me laugh though. Why would a GEnos owner spend that kind of money on such a module I wonder. The fact remains that both the V3 and the SD2 and SD1000 do a great job in combination with any Korg PA arranger, much more so than with the yammies because the Korgies allow for easier midi access and storage.
However as you said it all comes down to taste , personal preference and money !!

regards
John


I don‘t know why it would be laughable to get a V3 module together with a Genos. This was tested by some magazines, and they found there are sounds in the V3 the Genos doesn‘t deliver. Especially for Alpine folk music, there are dedicated samples of individual soloists like Vito Mucenik and Ivan Presern, whoever is fond of those will have a valuable addition to a Genos. I prefer the V3 trumpets over my Montage trumpets as well.

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#482030 - 11/26/19 10:04 AM Re: Purchasing Dilemma ? [Re: Dnj]
john smies Offline
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Registered: 05/05/00
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Loc: koudekerke, Holland.
Originally Posted By Dnj
So John with all that said what KB are you buying for Christmas Music wise..?


Hi Donny,
I am doing the sensible thing here and will stick to what I have got.
Enough ideas in my head to record some great stuff with both my arrangers, my piano and my guitars, we will have to wait and see if I can get down to it...
But it pleases me to learn you (and many with you) are so much enjoying their Genoses....still curious to learn the Don Mason verdict on that by the way.....

Crossover,
I cannot speak from personal experience as regards the Genos and no doubt there will be some samples that add to the richness of the yamaha. Relatively speaking they will be expensive, but what the heck if you can afford a Genos you no doubt can throw another dice to get the V3 should you want to....each to his/her own right ??

regards
John

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#482034 - 11/26/19 10:18 AM Re: Purchasing Dilemma ? [Re: john smies]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Originally Posted By john smies
[quote=Dnj]
Hi Donny,
I am doing the sensible thing here and will stick to what I have got.
John



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#482064 - 11/26/19 12:50 PM Re: Purchasing Dilemma ? [Re: john smies]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
"still curious to learn the Don Mason verdict on that by the way....."
I'm actually liking it better than I expected. The real test will be this weekend on the job. Don't want to say too much yet, because I don't like the taste of eating my own words. smile
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#482068 - 11/26/19 01:02 PM Re: Purchasing Dilemma ? [Re: DonM]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Don go get it....
Those Genos Guitars are
hard to beat. Hope you can record the night

Enjoy

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#482166 - 11/27/19 09:07 AM Re: Purchasing Dilemma ? [Re: john smies]
Crossover Offline
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Registered: 11/19/17
Posts: 596
Originally Posted By john smies


Crossover,
I cannot speak from personal experience as regards the Genos and no doubt there will be some samples that add to the richness of the yamaha. Relatively speaking they will be expensive, but what the heck if you can afford a Genos you no doubt can throw another dice to get the V3 should you want to....each to his/her own right ??

regards
John


Exactly. Maybe I'm also prone to defending the V3 modules as I exchanged a couple of emails with the creator Klaus Dzida. He's very much into Alpine music, for example he sampled the bariton horn of "Sepp Mattschweiger", as this player is famous for having a very sharp attack even at the lowest notes. Details such as this are what Alpine music lovers take serious... wink

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