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#482342 - 11/29/19 09:32 AM New JBL One compact speaker
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#482345 - 11/29/19 09:41 AM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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Thanks Jerry - will check that out!
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#482346 - 11/29/19 10:11 AM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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I prefer the Mackie Freeplay live ....
good sound, great lil back up, remote from phone EQ etc..

https://mackie.com/products/freeplay-live-portable-pa-system


Edited by Dnj (11/30/19 08:07 AM)

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#482354 - 11/29/19 10:40 AM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
jerry that has been out a while they trying to compete with bose s1


I tried them & sold them.....I prefer the Mackie Freeplay live ....
good sound, great lil back up, remote from phone EQ etc..

https://mackie.com/products/freeplay-live-portable-pa-system


They came out 1 month ago. You have to be the fastest for ordering, receiving shipment, trying out, and selling them... this side of the Mississippi. shocked

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Jerryghr

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#482355 - 11/29/19 10:45 AM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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Originally Posted By Jerryghr
Originally Posted By Dnj
jerry that has been out a while they trying to compete with bose s1


I tried them & sold them.....I prefer the Mackie Freeplay live ....
good sound, great lil back up, remote from phone EQ etc..

https://mackie.com/products/freeplay-live-portable-pa-system


They came out 1 month ago. You have to be the fastest for ordering, receiving shipment, trying out, and selling them... this side of the Mississippi. shocked

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Jerryghr



we have our ways.... just sayin..... wink

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#482356 - 11/29/19 10:48 AM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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That looks really nice! They keep getting better and smaller. Lots of features...
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#482359 - 11/29/19 11:11 AM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
That looks really nice! They keep getting better and smaller. Lots of features...


yes but I hated to carry two stands grrrrrr

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#482366 - 11/29/19 11:22 AM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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To me, it appears that it is just a small, lightweight, conventional, PA system, not much different than it's predecessors. It is rated at 150-watts peak power, which for the most part is pretty much meaningless when it comes to power ratings. Like some of its competitors, it does not mention RMS ratings or power consumption, which is the best indicator of how it will really perform.

Good luck,

Gary cool


Edited by travlin'easy (11/29/19 12:41 PM)
Edit Reason: Mistyped wattage which should have been 150 instead of 115
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#482372 - 11/29/19 11:55 AM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy
To me, it appears that it is just a small, lightweight, conventional, PA system, not much different than it's predecessors. It is rated at 115-watts peak power, which for the most part is pretty much meaningless when it comes to power ratings. Like some of its competitors, it does not mention RMS ratings or power consumption, which is the best indicator of how it will really perform.

Good luck,

Gary cool


I saw two different spec sheets, one states 150W peak, the other one (see link) states 120W (without the term „peak“, specifying 100W low + 20 W high) and 112 SPL.

https://images.static-thomann.de/pics/at...tt_englisch.pdf

http://www.jblpro.com/ProductAttachments/JBL_EON_ONE_Compact_Sell_Sheet.pdf


Edited by Crossover (11/29/19 11:58 AM)

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#482377 - 11/29/19 12:38 PM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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Unfortunately, wattage ratings, particularly those posted by JBL, Roland, and a few others, rarely list power consumption, though Roland does list this under the specifications. Here's the specs from the User Manual of the JBL One:

21Section 7: System Specifications

System

Type:Self-powered, two-way, 8” woofer, 1” tweeter

Sensitivity (SPL):112 dB

Frequency Response: 37.5 Hz – 20 kHz

Bluetooth:

Audio streaming and full control; range: 10 m (30 ft)USB:2x external charging ports: port 1 = 5V, 2A; port 2 = 5V, 1A

Amplifier

Power Rating: 150W peak

Mixer

Mixer:4 channels

Inputs:2x XLR/TRS combo jacks, 1x 1/4” Hi-Z, 1x 1/8” aux

Outputs:1x 1/8” headphone, 1x 1/4" pass thru

Effects:Reverb, delay, chorus

Battery

Battery Charge Time:2.5 hours with no signal, 6 hours with signalBattery Life:Up to 12 hours

Speaker

Coverage Pattern: 100º x 60ºNet Weight: 8 kg (17.63 lb)

Dimensions (L x W x H): 291 x 255 x 399 mm(11.46 x 10.04 x 15.71

If the manual were to list the actual power consumption, amps and volts consumed, then you can easily use OHM's Law and determine the actual wattage, which is the only true method of wattage measurement for amps, and of course, any other electronic or electrical device. Peak wattage, which could possibly only be produced for a micro-second, which the human ear cannot detect, is just about as useful teats on a bull.

Additionally, take note of the coverage pattern, which is just slightly more than a conventional speaker, at 100-degrees, horizontal X 60-degrees, vertical.

In contrast, the Bose L1 Compact has a 180-degree horizontal coverage area, with virtually no falloff within 50 feet and less than 10 percent at 100 feet (if my memory serves me correctly). Conventional speakers have significantly more falloff, usually about 25-percent at 50 feet, and as much as 50 percent at 100 feet.

When I was on stage, falloff was always a big issue with me until I went to the Bose vertical array systems. When I performed at larger venues, large ballrooms, etc..., the folks sitting close to the stage were exposed to ear bleed volumes so those at the back end of the venue could hear normal volumes. This problem was completely eliminated when I went to the Bose vertical array systems, beginning with the Bose L1 PAS system, which I purchased a day after hearing Uncle Dave perform with his at a Philadelphia Italian Restaurant. That system was rated at 1000-watts RMS, plus a 250-watt, 10-inch, long-throw subwoofer. It was absolutely awesome, both indoors and outdoors and could handle huge venues with ease.

Hope this helps,

Gary cool


Edited by travlin'easy (11/29/19 12:42 PM)
Edit Reason: spelling
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#482378 - 11/29/19 12:43 PM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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who cares about specs....the only indicator is YOUR OWN EARS

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#482404 - 11/29/19 03:29 PM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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No, the only indicator is your audience's ears and their reaction - our ears are very damned old, shot to Hell and most of the time I can no longer understand what my wife is saying. wink Keep in mind, Donny, that hearing is very subjective and deteriorates rapidly with loud music and age - both of which most of the folks on this forum are afflicted with.

Specs tell us a lot about a system, but if and only if we take the time to read them carefully and understand what they mean. Kinda like horsepower of a combustion engine, which is rated at a certain RPM, but I have never heard or seen a car advertisement that says "The Blah-Blah Super X has a 450 HP V8 under the hood, when you get the engine to 5,500 RPM." Same goes for amplifiers, which frequently tout their peak power, but rarely list RMS power - big difference! I've been working with electronics since I was 11 years old, got my General Class Amatuer Radio License (HAM) (W3JQL) when I was 12, designed and built my own transmitters and receivers from junk radio parts picked from throw-away radios plucked from neighborhood trash cans. Specs mean a lot to those who understand them! smile

Good luck,

Gary cool
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#482406 - 11/29/19 04:09 PM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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MERRY CHRISTMAS


Edited by Dnj (11/30/19 08:08 AM)

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#482407 - 11/29/19 04:10 PM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy
Specs mean a lot to those who understand them! smile

Good luck,

Gary cool


+1

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#482433 - 11/29/19 07:38 PM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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I am aware of the fact that PMPO means nothing and RMS or Sinus is the only wattage that gives a rough idea about the actual power.

Regarding the JBL Eon Compact I have new information for you: While the US manual just states the peak power of 150 W, if you look into the German-language manual, you will find the statement „Nennleistung 120 W“.
„Nennleistung“ is the permanent wattage, similar to RMS.
I don‘t know why JBL provide different specs for different countries, but it could be due to EU regulations...


Edited by Crossover (11/29/19 07:45 PM)

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#482473 - 11/30/19 10:04 AM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Jerryghr]
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Anyway, with 8 kilograms of weight and mono configuration I would prefer a HK Nano 302 that has confirmed 230 W RMS and stereo at a weight of 10 kg.

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#482475 - 11/30/19 10:24 AM Re: New JBL One compact speaker [Re: Crossover]
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Originally Posted By Crossover
Anyway, with 8 kilograms of weight and mono configuration I would prefer a HK Nano 302 that has confirmed 230 W RMS and stereo at a weight of 10 kg.

I had two of the Nano 300s and they were excellent. 302 can only be better. And you can get true stereo with only one. A little fiddly to break down and stow the satellites, but not a big deal really.
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