Yes, I know this is a KB forum, BUT ... I've seen posts from time to time where people have talked about photography, so I thought I would post this.
I am looking to sell my Nikon FE2 35mm SLR camera and lenses, and a couple of lenses for my Nikon D3300. I am looking to purchase an all purpose 28-300mm ZOOM lens for the D3300.
Here's what I am looking to sell:

Nikon FE2 35mm Camera (metal body)
Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm 1:1.4 lens
Nikon AF Nikkor 28-200mm 1.35:5.6D lens
Vivitar 28-210mm 1:3.5-5.6 lens

Lenses for D3300:
Nikon DX VR AF-S NIKKOR 18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6 GII
Nikon DX VR AF-S NIKKOR 55-200mm 1:4-5.6 GII ED

If any interest, please PM me, or email tonymadalonemusic@gmail.com

Tony, I ended giving all my 35mm cameras and lenses away to the local college. Gave them my entire dark room as well. Do they still make 35mm film? I went to digital more than 30 years ago when it first became available.

Good luck,

Gary

Cell phones have ruined the photography hobby..

Sadly, that is oh so true. I needed an accessory that could be found in any camera store, but when I tried to find one I discovered that there wasn't one within a 30 mile radius of me. Ended up having to order it from Amazon. I have PRIME and I feel so guilty when they show up at my door next day with a tiny package of something that costs $6.95. Oh well, I order a lot so I guess it evens out.

The problem is that cell phone cameras have gotten so good. I paid @ $500.00 for my new GoPro Hero 8 Black and a couple of accessories and extra battery. I just saw a comparison of my GoPro vs the new IPhone camera in a variety of situations. The iPhone held it's own and in some cases looked better than my action cam. Of course, it couldn't compete in terms of ruggedness but then the GoPro couldn't compete in terms of handiness (the phone is always with you). However, if I'd seen that comparison first, I'm not sure I'd have bought the GoPro (I'm not a surfer, skier, cliff diver, or motocross rider). In any case, it's a niche product. Consumer-grade cameras are definitely on a death spiral due to cell phones. Donny, you're right again; what's that, twice in one day. Wow!



chas

Gary, I went digital also, just never got rid of the SLR ...

Donny, not really ... "Photographers" still use cameras ...

Obviously, I was answering the same time as chas ...
My point is, that while cell phone cameras can be great, you do not see a photographer shooting a wedding or other social event with a phone camera ...

Hang in there, Tony:

Digital is not dead yet... as a result of Cell Phones.

----Dave

Or maybe increased the popularity of taking photos. I read somewhere that the best camera you have is the one you have WITH YOU.

Tony I mentioned armature habbiests...not pros..

Plus one here. I’m not a pro either but a serious hobbyist phototgrapher. What the great cameras in cell phones did was kill the so called “point and shoot market.” I still have 2 Canon DSLRs an assortment of lenses and also Fuji Mirrorless. If I’m shooting to make a large photo enlargement for a wall decoration gotta use the Canons or the Fuji.

OK, Donny, but I'm really just a hobbyist, but when we travel, or if I'm going out to look for a scene I would like to paint, I take my camera ...

So true, but if I have my cell phone and my DSLR, my DSLR is better ...
THAT SAID, I CAN take a photo with my phone, but CANNOT make a phone call with my camera ...

I was more active taking photos a few years ago but one of my interests was street photography see the link below. Some of these were taken in 2014 the day before Gary hosted the jam at his home. Many of them were at Baltimore's Inner Harbor others were from Galilee fishing port in Rhode Island, also College Hill home of Brown University. The couple looking at the map was taken at the site of the former World Trade Center where the fountains are now located. Each photo tells a story of some kind ya just gotta use your imagination.

https://zenfolio.page.link/D9sDC

You can see more here:
If you click on the main individual photos it will take you to more photos.

http://steveonphotos.com/

Best things with cell phones you don't have to carry the bulk of a slr camera around the neck, lenses, etc..

True, and I've used mine many, many times ... I just don't expect to make a large print from a cell phone photo ...
And one reason I'm looking to sell this gear is to buy one lens that I can use for everything I will want to shoot ...

There's a saying, "the best camera is the one you have with you." 90% of the time it's my iPhone. Part of the fun when you get out shooting is the equipment, sort of like having different keyboards,PA systems, mics and related equipment.

I'm signed up Tuesday night for a Christmas photo walk in downtown Providence, it's sponsored by a local camera shop. Yes I'll have my iphone and will take shots with it, but the DSLRs will do the heavy lifting.

Steve, nice stuff (on your photo site). I've been sort of intrigued by mirrowless cameras for a while now but don't know if I want to shell out a grand (+) for a entry level body that won't even take any of my current lenses. What do you think? That much better than a DSLR? I'm not a serious photographer, more like a bored retiree with a modest interest in photography. At the moment I'm experimenting with 360 degree and in the past, 3D photography (no longer have a 3D TV, so gave that up but still have 2 expensive 3D cameras). But back to the mirrowless, what do you think?

chas

Back when I was a freelance, outdoor writer, we were required to shoot our own photos. Consequently, during the mid 1970s, I installed a relatively large dark room in my basement, which later became my music storage room. After coming home from an assignment, I usually spent the next 3 to 5 hours developing film and printing photos, most black and white, because the majority of the columns were for newspapers and B&W print magazines. I also shot thousands of 35-mm slides, which had to be Kodachrome 64 ASA slides for the major publications. This was shipped out and took about a week to get the slides back, then sent them off to the publisher. I still have the slides and negatives, but some have faded out to the point where they are pretty much worthless.

When I switched to digital, the camera was about $200 and the resolution was 300 dpi. However, because the printed size of the photo in the magazines were usually pretty small, the resultant image was crisp enough to meet the standards required at the time. When I upgraded to a Sony Mavica CDR with a 20/1 optical zoom lens, I thought I died and went to heaven with a massive 2.1 mpi image. I shot a photo of our cat and you could count the hairs on the cat's whiskers. Everything was crisp and clear. I still use this camera for wildlife photos taken around the house, and it does a fantastic job after all these years.

Gary

Donny,

What's an armature habbiest?

Jerryghr

A hobbit with no arms?

Chas, thank you.

Ever since got the Fuji Xt1 I've used it more than my Canon 70d oor 5d Mark II that I got a steal of a deal on in an auction. With the Fuji XT1 I like it's lighter weight but more so than the lighter weight is the color right out of the camera. It needs very little post processing in Adobe Lightroom. I also like the physical controls to adjust Aperture, ISO and Speed. Fuji is now up to the XT3 is a huge improvement over the XT1. Yes if you're thinking it's like an arranger upgrade, when does it end? I'm staying with the XT1 it does what I need it to do. It's great for those street photography shots because there's no shutter noise. The Fuji XT1 is a very capable camera and you can probably pick up a used one for about $500 minus the lenses. The latest the XT3 will set a buyer back about $1799 with an 18-55 lens. I've not been closely following other manufacturers and their releases but from what I've read Sony is really making some great mirror less cameras. Below is a review by Ken Rockwell on the XT1. Good luck

https://www.kenrockwell.com/fuji/x-t1.htm

Gary,

Nice photos amazing isn't it, that you used to spend hours in the dark room now in a matter of seconds/minutes we an produce what comes out of digital cameras!

So does that make us the 'Arranger players' of the photography world?

chas

Damn! Did it again. I spelled mirror "mirroW". And yes, there probably should be a space between mirror and less (I should of used the 'space' where my brain used to be ).

Thanks for the info Steve.

chas

Don't worry in the very near future cell phones will become obsolete also...

Tony, I have a like new 28-300 VR 3.5-5.6 G lens available if your interested PM me. Come with all stuff original there...and a UV filter. This is a current model I used on my D7000.

I still have a couple of 35 mm cameras. Starting when I was studying photography in college I had some really high-end gear, 2 1/4 square,, even 4x5 Speed Grahic. Rollieflex was a favorite. You had to manually adjust for parallax back then. Had my own darkroom for years. When I went to work in advertising for Murphy Oil, in 1968, they had a state of the art darkroom and I did away with mine.
One reason I have an LG phone is that it has an extremely good camera, although I seldom use the extremely good part of it.

Not ashamed to admit it; the iPhone 11 camera is amazing. That video was refreshingly unbiased. Gotta give Apple it's due.

chas

I just bought the iPhone 11 for my grand kids they love them.

I'd TRADE my grandkids for an iPhone 11.

chas

True, and it's showing an iPHONE PRO and at $1000 + without a trade-in, I would expect it to be...
BUT I still haven't seen a PROFESSIONAL photographer using an iPhone to photo important events ...
That's my story and I'm sticking with it ...

WHOA ... hit the lottery ?!?

God Bless ...

Tony, I've seen a smattering of them in what appeared to be press galleries at gov't functions but it's impossible to know if they were official photogs or just spectators....probably spectators.

chas

I'm an android guy... Hahaha yes..
that is what grandpa's are for..
It's Christmas time.

That iphone camera as good as it is for snapshots, does not compare to PRO camera equipment for sports, etc and anything involving low light work...the sensor is way small...but good for the average person...travel, family etc photography.

it's NOT a Baby Genos!!!!!

STIR THE POT ...

... makes the best stew ... and keeps Fran Carango amused.

What do you all do with all these pictures....and who looks at them?

Donny, I sold thousands of mine when I was a freelance, outdoor writer. Now they just take up space and bring back some fond memories when I spend the time browsing through them.

Gary

Like a lot of people - I think - I take pics with my phone cam of things that at that moment seem worthwhile, but then get deleted at some point later on ...
Our travel pics for the most part have been printed and put in photo albums which we will look at with people who traveled with us ...

I'm with Tony and it's not because he lives in Rhode Island either. I'm an Apple Fan Boy but I would not spend $1000 on any iphone ever.

Yes that's 5 iPhone 11's or a Genos lol

All my pics since 2000 (the start of my digital life) are stored and cataloged by date in five different places and two cloud sites including Google cloud. This includes my videos and pre-2000 pics that I have digitized. About 65-70g of storage. I can bring any of them up on computer, tablet, phone, and most of my 'smart' tv's instantly. I value them, as they chronicle a large and significant part of my life and that of my family. As our memories start to fade, it's nice to have something to jog them a bit. So I guess I have a hard time understanding comments like "What do you all do with all these pictures....and who looks at them?". The answer is, I DO...and my friends do, especially old friends who visit from time to time...it's one of our favorite means of reminiscing.

chas

+1
Except, I'm not quite THAT organized ...

Hi ,
My son gets some fantastic photos with his Samsung phone, no idea what model he has as his latest, forever upgrading them.

He travels all over the world taking happy snaps and blogging.

https://endlessroaming.com/2019/12/14/glacier-national-park-montana-usa/

Very impressive, and I bet much more fun than the IT industry.

Hi Bernie,
sad part for him is, he actually has to work now and again to pay for his endless vacations . Haha.

Rikki, Nice photos and nice he can roam the globe!

Steve, Tony, and any other serious photographers; any of you use action cams (ie. GoPro, etc.) and if so, how and when. I just bought a GoPro Hero 8 Black and now that I'm no longer very active, I'm looking for creative ways to justify this nearly $500.00 (with a few accessories) purchase. I have two previous models as well as a couple of Chinese knock-offs (AEE S71T Plus, etc.) but that was when I had motorcycles, motorhomes, and airplanes. Now, I'm just a doddering ol' fart who doesn't know when to stop buying action cameras .

The Hero 8 takes decent conventional photos/videos but doesn't compete with standard mid-grade consumer quality camcorders except for (you guessed it) action shots. Where the Hero 8 excels is it's incredible built-in stabilization (and of couse, ruggedness). You literally don't need a gimbal 95% of the time (not sure if that's worth $500 though ). Thought you guys might have some ideas that didn't involve me taking up surfing or mountain biking at this stage of my life .

chas

chas, sorry, but I've never been a big video guy ... From what I know, cameras like the Go-Pro are made for 'action' type videos, so if you want to make good use of it I think you have to start sky diving, cliff jumping, etc. so get your butt out there ...

Funny how photography affectionatos don't like
to take pictures or videos of themselves....

And bus drivers don't take bus rides on their day off ...

and musicians don't like to share music..

just sayin'

Considering what's been happening on these pages lately, I would have to respectfully disagree ...

Compared to the "number of members" I would not...sorry.

But compared to the number of members who participate on a daily basis it's not bad ...

Tony, if you see me cliff diving, it was either an accident, a suicide, or someone pushed me (the most likely of the three ). In either case, to satisfy Donny, I'll try to take videos .

chas

Hurry I can't wait....

You aren't alone .

chas

I think I have probably posted the vast majority of the videos and photos on this site. Ironically, DNJ has probably had the most posts requesting others to post videos and photos.

Just sayin'

Gary

Gary, Apparently we have some similar interests ...

From this photo I did this painting

That's a great photo AND an even better painting!

Wow Tony - that is amazing! Congratulations "Mr Picasso"! Great work!

Thanks much guys ... I have to say, both my wife and I have done some nice work, but since our teacher retired about 2 years ago, I haven't anything ... I really have to get back to it ...

PS: The 'REAL' artist in the family is our daughter ...

I have made a good portion of my living doing photography related activities. I have 4 rooms full of 8"x10" and 4"x5" view cameras, Crown Graphics, Twin Lense Hasseys, early Pentax Spotmatics, Almost every pro Cannon and Nikon ever made, pus endless numbers of video editing items, old $100,000.00 video cameras, etc.

I have published over 35,000 photos in catalogs, brochures, etc for Square D Company, Toyota, My Italian staircase manufacturers, etc.

Sadly, while resolution on the new phone cameras is pro level, the lenses are too wide to produce an image that is not grossly distorted, in most cases.

A while back I posted a photo of me using a Calumet View camera. It looks like something from the Civil War. I just bought a new 8"x10" and a new 4"x5" last month.

Now, they have digital backs. The reason they are still used at the highest level (Architectural and parallax corrected images) is not resolution. It is for composition and correction of two planes of parallax...thus the name "Tilt" and Swing".

I hate the old things. The image is upside down and backwards. You don't see the image at all after the back is put in place after the final focus. Shooting moving object is impossible. BUT, lenses stop down to f64...much smaller than even great lenses for hand-helds. That gives you great control of depth of field, a critical tool when doing very high level photography.

A major problem in graphics today is the use of camera phone images as references for line art or line art conversions. If distortions are not corrected, it's "garbage in-garbage out". To a pro, this kind of stuff is easily spotted and is rejected on the spot.

Lots of Jazz musicians were camera buffs. Sammy Davis had every piece of Nikon equipment ever made. Mel Torme loved twin lens Hassys and took one everywhere. Les McCann just published a retrospective book at 80 plus year old. And the camera in the photo I posted a while back was given to me by Ray Brown, who carried a 4x5 view camera (the one he gave me for a long time) on all his trips.

You can correct one plane with photoshop. When you see photos of washers, dryers, TV's, refrigerators, etc, thy are shot dead on from a slightly elevated angle to show definition. The image would be larger at the top than the bottom without correction. You can actually see the correction with a glass, because the image is stretched, which changes the pixel concentration.

Amplifiers and some other rectangular items are shot from above and usually at both a right and left reading angle, to accommodate different placements. Generally, with photoshop the operator corrects the parallax from the tilt side, but you can see soft edges on the swing side.

The public does not pay much attention to parralax distortion (the wider the lens the more distortion you get), because it's a TV world and any parralax correction is extremely difficult and expensive. We are used to it.

Next time you look at a photo of a rectangular object, you will immediately understand what I'm talking about.

Enough of a lecture. Pop quiz to follow.


Russ (three eye) Lay

PS: Any more, it is the photographer who uses photoshop to fine tune images before they are submitted, as opposed to years ago when photo editors did that. The best thing you can do to improve your photography is learn parallax correction

Beautiful photo and paintings, Tony. I'll try to photograph some of my paintings, but because they are behind glass, might be difficult to capture because of reflection. Gotta get that perfect angle to shoot them successfully.

Gary

... oh deer

Tony, me too. Taken from my bathroom window. See if you can spot him (her?) in the pic taken from the front porch.

chas

Got 'im ('er?) ... if I were a hunter that would be venison ...

It's definitely a Her, Chas. Bucks have shorter faces, and by that time of year, there would have been some fuzzy antlers growing. Good photos, love the flowers, too.

Gary

In 1975, I herniated 3 discs in my lower back and ended up paralyzed from the waist down. After extensive surgery at The Johns Hopkins Hospital, I spent the next three weeks in the hospital and was sent home to convalesce. For the next 5 months, I spent much of my time in a wheel chair, and in bed, though I did go to physical therapy 3 days a week during that period. I was bored out of my mind and Carol convinced me to try my hand at painting with acrylics. This resulted in 21 paintings during that 5 month period.

Here are two of them, which I photographed hanging on the wall of our family room. They are behind glass, so they were difficult to photograph, but for someone with absolutely no training, I think I did OK.

Gary

Tony, Ya been holding out on us, I've seen your past painting and they were very good, this one of the flower is exceptional.

Chas I've never been a video guy just still photography.

Russ you're the real pro when it comes to graphic arts.

Gary, Pretty good stuff for a guy who had never painted in the past.

Thanks Steve - sure wish I were down in the sunny south today. Got an inch of snow overnight, mixed with a bit of freezing rain this morning. Temperature back down to 32 currently, and everything outside is back to freezing rain - nasty! Bet you guys were wearing shorts today.

Merry Christmas,

Gary

79 yesterday; 29 tonight!

Believe it or not, I have a job next year to photograph custom staircases all around Europe. I will be using a 4"x5" view camera with FILM! Typically, in the studio you use a digital back and a computer. These images are too big to use with a laptop, so I'm going completely "old school".

The camera I will use is a 1960 Calumet given to me by Ray Brown.

Transparencies will be processed on location and scanned when I get home.

Book is a $250,000.00 project for one of Italy's premier staircase designers.

Russ

Gary, Just so happens I’m not flying until Sunday to the sunny south, I had to be here for Christmas gigs in December I booked over a year ago. They are wearing shorts and t-shirts. I have to laugh though when I watch WESH TV Orlando when they talk about a cold front ain’t nothing like the cold in the north

UD and DNJ pay someone to do this - I have to do it myself. Had to shovel of the deck to prevent it from caving in, then from the deck to the end of the driveway with the snow blower, it's 150 feet, leaving me just 300 feet X 10 feet of driveway to clear so I could go to work and play music. Only took 3 hours to get to the road. Those 4 seasons in this part of the world are BS!


Oh, one more thing, more people have died from cold weather by a huge margin than ever died from warm weather.

Merry Christmas, everyone,

Gary

You wanted a big homestead in the country!

Yep - It's nice out here in the sticks, very quiet at night, no sirens blowing, no traffic noise while I'm sitting on the deck at night watching the sun go down and listening to the barred owls calling their mates, no neighbors for 300 feet in any direction and 1,200 acres of woodlands abutting my 5-1/2 acres.

My children loved growing up here, spent lots of time exploring the adjacent woodlands, swam in our stream during the warmer months, and learned a lot about nature, first hand. The only drawback is WINTER!

Gary

Pure Bliss.....

Gary, you don't HAVE to do it yourself ... I'm sure you could have found someone to pay to do it ... It all comes down to what we are willing to spend to have someone provide a service ...
I don't want to shovel snow, so I pay somebody to do it for me ... I enjoy gardening and cutting my lawn, so I do it myself ... BUT, I HATE weeding, so I pay someone to do it for me ...

+1

Believe it or not, it is very difficult to have someone clear my driveway and sidewalk, even though I would be willing to pay up to $150 to $200 per job depending on the snow depth. Most say call them, but when you do, they just don't bother to show up.

Now, both you and DNJ have seen my driveway and sidewalk, both of which are long, but living here, surrounded by 5.5 acres of land, is very nice half of the year. When winter arrives, it usually hits with a vengeance, which is evident in the photos. A 3-foot snowfall is a bitch!

Merry Christmas, Guys,

Gary

Russ, I used to use a Calumet 4x5 with of course film in the 60's.
Kodak Ektachrome....
Loved it...you talk about resolution!!!
Did mostly commercial real estate and portraits in studio.

Lee, as I said, I just bought two now Toyo view finder cameras this year...a 4"x5" and an 8"x10". They are STILL the industry standard for architectural and fine commercial photography. The difference is, you use a digital insert instead of a film holder. The plate is connected to a hard-wired PC, in most cases.

Be well,

Russ (4-eyes) Lay

We are going to a place called Chuck Ruben's Photographic on Bardstown Road on Friday with 6 large boxes of photographic equipment....4"x5", 6x7 Pentax, Russian Kiev systems, Nikon's,Olympus, Cannons and lots of accessories.

The guy rebuilds and sells to film people. He will look at anything that has a battery that powers a meter...nothing automatic.

Email me privately and I'll give you his phone number.

Man, it's hard to take $100.00 for a camera that cost $5500.00 new.

OH WELL....We figure the 6 boxes will bring round $1,000.00.


Russ

Too bad I didn't see this before shipping my gear off to a camera store in NY ... Would have liked to give this guy a shout ...

But I did purchase a beautiful NIKON 28-300mm from Lee at a good price for both of us ...

And BTW, Lee used FedEx ground and the box came unmarked - he did a great job of packing also -
The NY outfit sent me a pre-paid mailing label, also FedEx ground ...


PS: just reread Russ' post ... Guy probably would not be interested in my gear ...

Tony,

Congrats on that new lens! Glad to read it arrived safe and sound!

We are all renaissance men (and women) mastering all the arts.

I'm also a semi-pro photographer. I shoot events and special projects, I also shoot portraits and wildlife. It's incredible how camera equipment has evolved to this point with so many amazing cameras and lenses. It is NOT a cheap hobby, that's for sure.

And yet....it's a lot cheaper than it used to be for the same or better level of quality. Technological advances, especially in software, have made equipment smaller, lighter, and with features unheard of in their price range just a few years ago. Of course, to paraphrase Paul (Montunoman), it's not the camera, it's the photographer. My beef is, too many automated features that inhibit the average 'joe blow' from learning the 'basics' of photography. Makes too many amateurs think they're better than they really are (aka arranger syndrome). BUT hey, maybe that's not a bad thing. Different strokes......

chas

I use my phone much easier

Unfortunately Donny, you won't be able to hang that enlarged family portrait over the fireplace with only 12mp.