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#487890 - 01/27/20 05:50 AM Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX
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#487891 - 01/27/20 06:07 AM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: Dnj]
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#487892 - 01/27/20 06:09 AM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: Dnj]
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That SKX has everything you could want in a Hammond. Pedal Sustain would be a big feature for me and twin extravoice sections. WOW Just add a drum machine.
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#487899 - 01/27/20 06:30 AM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: Dnj]
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Maybe it's just the choice of registrations or maybe it's just the player, but I was grossly under-impressed with the (Hammond) sounds of the SKX. I do agree with bill about having sustain on the bass pedals. I don't remember the exact number but I think I paid about $5-600 to add that (aftermarket) feature to my old C3. That was a lot of money back then. In summary though, this would not be my first choice in a organ-oriented keyboard. This is based strictly on my impression of the overall SOUND of the instrument. JMO.

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#487900 - 01/27/20 06:38 AM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Maybe it's just the choice of registrations or maybe it's just the player, but I was grossly under-impressed with the (Hammond) sounds of the SKX. I do agree with bill about having sustain on the bass pedals. I don't remember the exact number but I think I paid about $5-600 to add that (aftermarket) feature to my old C3. That was a lot of money back then. In summary though, this would not be my first choice in a organ-oriented keyboard. This is based strictly on my impression of the overall SOUND of the instrument. JMO.

chas


good points chas......seeing him reach and search underneath the yamaha for drawbars is whay I hate a double tier setup...so annoying and in the way of my playing and singing....I'm a single kb man !!
at least we agree on the SKX now I can eliminate it from my list ..lol

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#487903 - 01/27/20 07:06 AM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: Dnj]
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I think it was the registrations. Upon first losten I thought it sounded like sort of a dated style of setup, almost rheatre organ. Never having played one I'm still sure it could be tweaked ro have that full gritty Hammond sound we all love.


Edited by Bill Lewis (01/27/20 07:15 AM)
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#487905 - 01/27/20 07:14 AM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: cgiles]
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[quote=cgiles]Maybe it's just the choice of registrations or maybe it's just the player, but I was grossly under-impressed with the (Hammond) sounds of the SKX. I do agree with bill about having sustain on the bass pedals. I don't remember the exact number but I think I paid about $5-600 to add that (aftermarket) feature to my old C3. That was a lot of money back then. In summary though, this would not be my first choice in a organ-oriented keyboard. This is based strictly on my impression of the overall SOUND of the instrument.

Chas I also added sustain to my B3. A NovaIV unit which gave me sustained bass sounds for both the pedals and lower manuels with a volume controlled separate output. Tried ot find that organ after I sold it but no luck. Long time ago Also had a Model A which belonged to an organ tech and it had everything Trek II made in it. That too went to a church Shortly after heard the church flooded but the organist saved the A and took it home.
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#487907 - 01/27/20 07:34 AM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: Dnj]
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Yeah Bill, and it took a gazillion years for Hammond to figure out that was a feature most organists wanted. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't it appear on spinet organs (and other brands) before it was added to modern B's and C's? Unless you're a classically traind heel and toe guy on the level of a Barbara Dennerlein (who strangely plays all 'toe' - at least when playing jazz), it is almost impossible to play a nice 'walking bass' with just pedals (with no sustain).

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#487920 - 01/27/20 09:48 AM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By cgiles
Maybe it's just the choice of registrations or maybe it's just the player, but I was grossly under-impressed with the (Hammond) sounds of the SKX. I do agree with bill about having sustain on the bass pedals. I don't remember the exact number but I think I paid about $5-600 to add that (aftermarket) feature to my old C3. That was a lot of money back then. In summary though, this would not be my first choice in a organ-oriented keyboard. This is based strictly on my impression of the overall SOUND of the instrument. JMO.

chas


good points chas......seeing him reach and search underneath the yamaha for drawbars is whay I hate a double tier setup...so annoying and in the way of my playing and singing....I'm a single kb man !!
at least we agree on the SKX now I can eliminate it from my list ..lol


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#487923 - 01/27/20 10:49 AM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: Dnj]
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I had sustain on my Thomas organs for pedals and upper/lower...let's see that was early 70's
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#487924 - 01/27/20 10:59 AM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: abacus]
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Originally Posted By abacus
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By cgiles
Maybe it's just the choice of registrations or maybe it's just the player, but I was grossly under-impressed with the (Hammond) sounds of the SKX. I do agree with bill about having sustain on the bass pedals. I don't remember the exact number but I think I paid about $5-600 to add that (aftermarket) feature to my old C3. That was a lot of money back then. In summary though, this would not be my first choice in a organ-oriented keyboard. This is based strictly on my impression of the overall SOUND of the instrument. JMO.

chas


good points chas......seeing him reach and search underneath the yamaha for drawbars is whay I hate a double tier setup...so annoying and in the way of my playing and singing....I'm a single kb man !!
at least we agree on the SKX now I can eliminate it from my list ..lol




Combine this with an sd90 and you are set to go...
Sadly setting up midi espesciallly with splits is a pain in the, no flexibility..
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#487945 - 01/27/20 02:02 PM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Yeah Bill, and it took a gazillion years for Hammond to figure out that was a feature most organists wanted. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't it appear on spinet organs (and other brands) before it was added to modern B's and C's? Unless you're a classically traind heel and toe guy on the level of a Barbara Dennerlein (who strangely plays all 'toe' - at least when playing jazz), it is almost impossible to play a nice 'walking bass' with just pedals (with no sustain).

chas


Good Barbra Dennerlin story. She used to travel with a custom pedalboard and midi unit to get better sounds and sustain. Came to the US to do a concert and couldn't get it thru customs. They had no idea what it was. I can (or used to) play heel/toe with my LF but still liked the sustain and click the Nova gave me.ran it thru and Ampeg B4 amp into 2 JBL 15" speakers. Leslie sat on top of the bass cabinet. The good old days.
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#487950 - 01/27/20 02:40 PM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: Dnj]
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Ha, how much could you benchpress then; how much can you benchpress NOw? smile smile. I love stories about the 'good ol' days', and old B3 players have more than their fair share of them.

chas
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#487967 - 01/27/20 05:30 PM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Ha, how much could you benchpress then; how much can you benchpress NOw? smile smile. I love stories about the 'good ol' days', and old B3 players have more than their fair share of them.

chas


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#487982 - 01/27/20 06:48 PM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: cgiles]
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[quote=cgiles]Ha, how much could you benchpress then; how much can you benchpress NOw? smile smile. I love stories about the 'good ol' days', and old B3 players have more than their fair share of them

They were great times and I,m glad I got to live them. Even then that stuff was heavy and I couldn't imagine trying to do it now.
Last Hammond. I moved was my studio Cherrywod B3 and I struggled with just the dollies!
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#487983 - 01/27/20 07:17 PM Re: Jobim - Look To The Sky - Hammond SKX [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
Even then that stuff was heavy and I couldn't imagine trying to do it now.
Last Hammond. I moved was my studio Cherrywod B3 and I struggled with just the dollies!


Those solid oak dollies weighed as much as a full modern-day rig. Remember how quickly the other band members could disappear when it was moving time smile....and PLEASE LORD, PLEASE, NO STEPS smile (or high stage). Plus, I don't remember getting paid any more than the sax guy.....and WE had to buy a van. So tell me again how much fun we had smile smile. Wouldn't take a million dollars for having gone through it but wouldn't give a plugged nickel to go back.

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