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#48978 - 04/11/07 07:32 AM
All our yesterdays
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Registered: 04/11/07
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Loc: United Kingdom
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Hi all, With retirement approaching and long lazy days ahead, I have rediscovered my KN1000. Thanks to this site, cannot remember how I ended up here, but on reading the posts I found a supplier for the FDisc drive. Many years ago, 20+, I made enquirys for this item, but the price was prohibitive in comparison to what I had paid for the keyboard £800 and I could not justify it to her who had to be obeyed. Suffice to say I now have one installed. But now I have new problems, I can install the discs from TechNote no problems, on the other hand downloaded files from Gunners web site do not seem to work. I have an XP os on my main CPU, and my USB floppy drive will not support 720KB, so I downloaded and copied the files to CD. The CD was then placed into an old CPU running Win98. These files were then extracted to a\: onto 720Kb discs, which this system would format. I have managed to get the Beatles one and several others, but keep getting " Other disc!!" messages or "No song" on the KN1000. Also I get cannot write directory error messages from the a\: drive. I have also tried the German site that Gunner recommends and again no joy.
Am I missing a move here? Regards JohnT
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#48983 - 04/12/07 11:20 AM
Re: All our yesterdays
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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 1098
Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
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Hello John,
It is my belief that earlier KN floppies were for specific models and could not be read by later models. Eventually, these later models could read one or two back issues of floppies i.e.: the KN65000 could read the KN6000, KN5000, and the KN3000 could read the KN20000 and even now, the KN7000 I have will only read as far back as the KN2000 and any keyboard going back further it cannot read, so with this in mind, unless your Keynote disks specifically state that it can read ALL models, this could be your problem.
Your Error Message could either refer to the fact that the disk was made for an earlier model and therefore it cannot be read OR, perhaps it was a personal setup put together by a private individual in which case, it may have a 'Password' on it to prevent it being copied.
I'm afraid I do not know enough about Passwords to be able to suggest anything on this but I am sure there are better informed members of this Forum who would be able to help, should this prove to be the problem.
Hope this helps.
Audrey
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#48984 - 04/12/07 01:54 PM
Re: All our yesterdays
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Registered: 04/11/07
Posts: 19
Loc: United Kingdom
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Hi Audrey, All the files come from either Gunners download site or CA software. What I cannot understand is the inconsistancy as some of Gunners, I have managed to download no problem, and yet trouble with the some others. On my surfing prior to attempting downloads I rememer someone gave a cause for the "No song" message, but cannot recall what it was. As for the " Other disc" message, have not got a clue. Dont you just love it, when the software developer writes in "Error messages", then cannot be bothered to explain the implications to the user! I have sent an EMail to Gunner and await a reply, but I can understand if he does not want to get involved, hence the subject title. I started this, because I am not capable of writing my own patterns and was looking for styles similar to Fleetwood Mac,Elton John,Beatles and all that genre, plus James Last,Percy Faith etc. Thinking this was the easy way out, how wrong can one be?
Many Regards JohnT
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#48985 - 04/12/07 08:30 PM
Re: All our yesterdays
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Senior Member
Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4339
Loc: Norway
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Hi. I've been doing a bit testing on this matters since John contacted me. A friend have a KN1000, and that gave us quite a surprice! We tried a lot of diskettes, ready format and self format 720, and got the same result as John do. Win98 2.nd edition, no luck! That was really surpricing, or maybe it has something to do with the PC's floppydrive who might be a bit newer hardware than the other equipment? Then we ended up to use 1.44HD diskettes, using the trick to put tape over the hole who is not closeable and 720 format on a old laptop with Win2000 SP4, and WOILAAA!!! Then things start act "normal", KN1000 could read the diskette and files. Since it's not possible to format 720kb DD in XP anymore, (I seem to remeber it could be done in XP earlier version, and worked?), older OS and equipment maybe has to be used? But, why it's so tricky to make it work nowadays I don't have any good ideas about. Can it be that so simple that some of the floppydrives can have updated firmware who are not compatible? Happy Playing ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif) GJ
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#48986 - 04/13/07 02:19 AM
Re: All our yesterdays
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Junior Member
Registered: 04/11/07
Posts: 19
Loc: United Kingdom
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Hi all, Who was it said CPU's would make things easier, Bill Gates? Thanks for your efforts Gunner, if I read you correctly, I need Win 2000 SP4 or win95 to download these files, niether of which are to hand. I can take it that emulation is a non starter in this case? Looks as if I will have to wait until No1 son visits me again, he uses MS-Dos and linux and see if he can find a way round this problem. In the interim I'll try to get back up to speed on the keyboard, been at least 10 yrs since I touched it. The reason was I got hooked into Flight Sims, but lately have been have become dissallusioned with guess what, expensive software that does not do what it says on the can. Must say I am relieved to find that you encountered the same problems as me, thought I was an imbecile and could not do a simple save to disc. Will just have to hope there is a CPU buff out there who can come up with an answer.
Many regards to all,
JohnT
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