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#490747 - 03/01/20 01:16 PM
major problem concentrating
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Registered: 03/22/17
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Loc: Mountain Home, AR
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I'm really having a problem concentrating on what I need to work on when practicing. I have made a list of 30 major tunes and printed out the lyrice and chords. Now I need to find the best backup styles ect for each tune. I set down and start to practice and an hour later I have gone off on some tangent and not found the backups I need. The arranger kb is not necessarily easy play unless you want to accept mediocre results with the on board styles and OT settings.
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#490749 - 03/01/20 01:27 PM
Re: major problem concentrating
[Re: ekurburski]
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Earl, post the list of songs on this thread and maybe we can be of assistance. Just a guess, but I'm sure that someone here has lots of third party styles or song specific styles for each and every one of those songs. Good luck, Gary
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#490774 - 03/01/20 03:20 PM
Re: major problem concentrating
[Re: ekurburski]
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Loc: Mountain Home, AR
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As far as the 30 songs are concerned I was only working on one at a time. I had figured I could do one tune a day and have all 30 ready to go after a month. As I've said before it was so much easier when we only had 8 different rhymes to choose from on the organ. Now we've got 2-300 different styles, each with 4 drum patterns! So much more to choose from!
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#490781 - 03/01/20 04:30 PM
Re: major problem concentrating
[Re: ekurburski]
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Loc: North Texas, USA
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I know what you mean Earl, I can relate. I'm a home hobbyist. But for me the workflow would be:
-Make a set list -Obtain the music, either paper or MIDI -Transpose to preferred key and simplify if necessary (some chord progressions are just too hard for me to play in real time without making a mistake!) -Try to find a style that goes well with the song -Practice! Orchestration really don't matter at this point, as long as it's pleasant enough to listen to -If a song still seems too difficult, drop it for a while and move on to the next one. -Only after I get really good at a song with the default sounds/style, THEN I'll create a new registration BANK for that song (Roland calls it a User Program Group) -I create one registration entry for each section of the song that involves any kind of voice or control change. So far I haven't done a song with two different styles, but it's very possible. -Annotate the score (either paper or digital) with a reminder to change registrations
Bottom line: no matter how good the panel is laid out, I'm not quick enough to change multiple controls within a couple seconds while I'm playing. Most models have the ability to change OTS with variation, or vice-versa, and that's a good starting point. But it's more foolproof to create a custom registration. The downside to my approach is that once the song is fully evolved, it will always sound the same way. I recently got a BK-9 and I haven't yet worked out how to use the "favorite" tones to give myself some variety when I get bored.
Bottom line, YES it's easy to get distratcted fiddling and not even get through a practice set. For me it's a fun way to while away an evening, but there's a reason I don't quit my day job!!
Edited by TedS (03/02/20 07:02 PM) Edit Reason: Accidentally called him Ed!
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#490862 - 03/02/20 01:05 PM
Re: major problem concentrating
[Re: ekurburski]
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John C. Problem, it is a job to do. Right now it is the only job to do.
And to all the rest of you, thanks for some good suggestions. Now I just have to motivate myself to go to the practice room in the first place!
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#490888 - 03/02/20 03:52 PM
Re: major problem concentrating
[Re: ekurburski]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Earl, just take them one song at a time, when you're finished with that one, go to the next. That's how I did it for more than 30 years. You'll be amazed at how fast those songs stack up in your brain. Good luck, Gary
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#490891 - 03/02/20 06:47 PM
Re: major problem concentrating
[Re: ekurburski]
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Registered: 03/22/17
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Loc: Mountain Home, AR
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Thanks Gary. I will try that.
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