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#491633 - 03/15/20 05:38 PM Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger [Re: Mark79100]
cgiles Offline
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Well Mark, what about Paul's opinion? After all he IS Latino. I certainly hope MY post doesn't infer any kind of animosity towards John; I just happen to disagree with that particular statement; as it turns out, I'm not alone in that feeling. By way of contrast, YOUR statement certainly seems to have some sinister overtones where it concerns me. Do you feel it necessary to launch an attack every time someone disagrees with you? Does it have anything to do with your PERCEPTION of my attitude towards accordions? If so, isn't that kind of ridiculous...not to mention immature. Let's agree to keep these discussions on an intellectual level and avoid the personal. I would really like the right to express my own honest opinion on forum topics without coming under personal attack from you or anyone else. I'm sure you feel the same.

chas
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#491635 - 03/15/20 05:58 PM Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger [Re: Mark79100]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
It's just that in my experience, when you attribute 'special powers' or special gifts to a specific group, it becomes the birthplace of stereotyping....and we know where that leads.
chas


Yes...where it usually leads...right into Chas's lap waiting to be devoured like a "hungry lion" begging for his next meal.

Chas, have you not learned yet that music is not a science, or a mathematical formula or a profession that's to be played only in a laboratory? Have you not also learned that some remarks are not meant to be taken as Gospel for the sake of practicality and conversation? And that many of those same remarks, are not meant to launch a "scientific" conversation?

We're not talking about "can it be done (a non-ethnic type playing ethnic music)?" Or course, it can be done. Anything can be done if you want to put in the time and energy. But even then it won't happen unless you were born with the talent and the ability. And, lived the "lifestyle."

I listen to a lot of the blues...a LOT of the blues. In most cases, I can tell in an instant the difference between a seasoned Negro blues man and....anyone else. Why did the blues become successful in the South...because that's where poverty existed and was most prevalent. It spawned hundreds of real bluesmen that lived the lifestyle necessary to express emotion and sensitivity in their music.

Originally Posted By cgiles
Mark gets upset when someone changes the direction of his posts so I won't say anymore about this.chas


No, Mark "gets upset" when someone changes the direction of his posts from everyday casual conversation and remarks into a feeding frenzy for someone else. Someone who uses it as fodder to build a Perry Mason-like case for the sake of being "heard" only whether his arguement holds water or not. In this case, it's always the same person....Chas.

Now, I asked you before NOT to pick apart my posts like you have a nasty habit of doing. You break the flow of conversation from other members and presto, bingo...the post goes South. There are ways to make your own case without the snide remarks. You backed off playing the "race card"....now please "back off" of interrupting my posts with your "glory-seeking" remarks. Look where YOUR input took a casual post that started out praising the beauty of the La Foule song.

I was in my glory discussing Latin music and the positive related comments that were introduced by the other members. Why didn't you leave it alone, or, better yet, start your own post and argue with yourself!

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#491636 - 03/15/20 06:26 PM Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger [Re: cgiles]
Mark79100 Offline
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Well Mark, what about Paul's opinion? After all he IS Latino. chas


There's a difference between you and someone like Paul and John. They deliver their messages with class and polish. They are not "rough around the edges." And there is NO anger "between the lines."

Originally Posted By cgiles
I certainly hope MY post doesn't infer any kind of animosity towards John


Yes, lest he change "camps"

Originally Posted By cgiles
I just happen to disagree with that particular statement; as it turns out, I'm not alone in that feeling. By way of contrast, chas


The post was about the beauty of Latin music. It was not meant as a vehicle for you to use to forward a case that has nothing to do with "the beauty of Latin music." Please note at the top of the Synthzone page. It has a link for "new topics." It was put there for a reason.

Originally Posted By cgiles
YOUR statement certainly seems to have some sinister overtones where it concerns me. chas


You got that one right!

Originally Posted By cgiles
Do you feel it necessary to launch an attack every time someone disagrees with you? chas


If you look at my "history" in the room, I generally tend to live and let live. Until....I go under attack. Then I become like Chuck Schuemer. I don't let people "walk on me."

Originally Posted By cgiles
Does it have anything to do with your PERCEPTION of my attitude towards accordions?chas


You got that one right too! You have no respect for people. I asked you, I don't know how many times, and in a very civil way, to stop making mockery of the accordion. And you just continued right along with the accordion remarks.

Originally Posted By cgiles
If so, isn't that kind of ridiculous...not to mention immature. chas


Chas, that's a coincidence because that's been my opinion of you all along.

Originally Posted By cgiles
Let's agree to keep these discussions on an intellectual level and avoid the personal. chas


No...let's agree to keep these topics on course. I was really enjoying the variety of comments that were being introduced here until you made sure
the flow came to an abrupt halt.

Originally Posted By cgiles
I would really like the right to express my own honest opinion on forum topics without coming under personal attack. chas


You mean like your own personal attack on what John wrote?

Now please....consider other members when they post something. It's not YOUR job to jeopardize the post!


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#491637 - 03/15/20 06:32 PM Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger [Re: Mark79100]
cgiles Offline
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Well Mark, you didn't answer my question about Paul's opinion, which essentially mirrowed mine. Both were a response to JOHN'S remark, NOT YOURS. BTW, the term 'NEGRO' is rarely used any more as it tends to harken back to a time most of us would like to forget. This is not meant in a negative way but is only for your social enlightenment; 100% of African-Americans prefer the term 'Black' or 'African-American' (note- not Afro-American). Hopefully, the terms 'Negro' and 'Colored' will be relegated to the history books. I hope you realize that calling your attention to this fact is not 'playing the race card', it's just an attempt to bring you up to date on a cultural shift that you apparently are not aware of. My intentions are good and hopefully will spare you an embarrassing moment in some future encounter. Since you play in a variety of cultural venues, I'm sure you'd want to be aware of anything that one of these groups might find offensive, right? You have a good day now.

chas
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#491638 - 03/15/20 06:41 PM Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger [Re: Mark79100]
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Chas....why don't you quit while you're ahead. And learn the art of integrating and interacting with people.

I was in a really good mood when I brought up La Foule and was actually surprised when I got such a great response. Thanks to YOU, this thread is now "dead."

You need to grow up and stop trying to justify everything you have to say. In my book, you may "win the battle, but lose the war!"

Find someone else to go "into battle with." Or...try spending your "battle time" practicing music instead! The last time I looked the Synthzone was about music patter.

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#491640 - 03/15/20 06:58 PM Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger [Re: Mark79100]
cgiles Offline
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Mark, you're the only person on this entire forum that flies into a rage and holds eternal grudges because someone made an accordion joke. Think about the implications of that.

chas
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#491642 - 03/15/20 07:23 PM Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger [Re: cgiles]
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stop stop stop stop stop

I just got some news that MAY end up to be devestating ...
I come here as an escape from all the REAL problems we all face ... ENOUGH of this bull $hit ... it all means NOTHING !!!
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#491644 - 03/15/20 07:38 PM Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger [Re: Mark79100]
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What's the news t.? pm if you desire to....my best


Edited by zuki (03/15/20 07:39 PM)
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#491645 - 03/15/20 07:42 PM Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger [Re: zuki]
tony mads usa Offline
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zuki, thank you for your concern ...
I think I wrote that part out of duress, but I will share in another post ...
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