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#491580 - 03/15/20 12:20 AM
Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger
[Re: Mark79100]
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Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1661
Loc: USA
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I think what I was trying to say when I said I wish I could play the tune on an arranger, was..."on an arranger" but sound like THEY do. The vocal harmony, the little nuances in the guitar playing, the strumming, etc.
I love Latin music: merengue, salsa, cumbia, bachata, etc (and Spanish music from Spain, Argentine tango, etc.) I think that is Latin America's greatest export to the United States. Their music! You can't help but feel happy when you hear it. And most of it is done with just a few chords and a lot of imagination.
In these times of Corona blues, this kind of music really cheers me up and makes me feel alive.
How many of you knew of the song La Foule before I mentioned it?
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#491586 - 03/15/20 04:57 AM
Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger
[Re: cgiles]
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
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Chas, since the word well is at question, I would like to share my story.
Mike Allessi, a fantastic Tenor sax player, a friend for close to 65 years. He was the best Tenor man that I knew personality.
He lived in the western part of Long Island, N.Y. – In the town he lived there was a Latino Club, it accommodated about 90 people. Their rule, and it was placed above the entrance was; “Latinos Only”. If you were not a Latino, you had a problem. Well Mike Alessi, who was not a Latino, had the courage to walk in the front door. He was greeted by three men who asked what he wanted. He said, “I want to play my Tenor sax with you”.
They questionably led him to the band stand. The music started, then they gave him a chance to play. The response was fantastic, they were all over him like he was a lost relative. Two months past, he asked them if he could bring me to the club, they said yes. I visited the club very Wednesday night for the next few months; I received a Latino education.
Let me add my Cuban son-in-law who played guitar and sang. I invited him to perform with my band on special occasions. His La Bamba, was good, it brought people running to the dance floor. When he turned his Latino talent to R&R, it had the same effect; people wanted to hire the band.
Chas, with this background my “WELL” and your “WELL” are not the same.
1-Enjoy Latin music, but you will never do it well. Maybe if I used the word “I” instead of “You”, it might have been understood differently.
John C.
PS, Mike Allessi is Italian, he was not a Latino. But he was one of many. I love Big Band, the Latino Big Band is far better, more excitement, more life. IMHO
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#491588 - 03/15/20 06:17 AM
Re: I wish I could do this song on an arranger
[Re: Mark79100]
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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John, if I misunderstood you or mis-interpreted you, then I apologize. It's just that in my experience, when you attribute 'special powers' or special gifts to a specific group, it becomes the birthplace of stereotyping....and we know where that leads. I acknowledged that being born into a culture is probably going to give you a leg up on most aspects of that culture, but that doesn't mean to the exclusion of everyone else. Could Ray Charles sing C&W ('I can't stop loving you')? Could Joe Cocker or Janis Joplin sing the blues? Could Jimi Hendrix play Rock guitar? Appropriated? Maybe, but they still did it well. Didn't your own experience with your sax player prove my point? My own theory is, if you really like it and, more importantly, REALLY FEEL IT, you can play it.....well! Mark gets upset when someone changes the direction of his posts so I won't say anymore about this. I just don't like the idea of someone assuming that I can 'sing and dance' just because I'm Black; and it's sort of the flip side of the same coin (for the record, I can't do either ). Take care, ol' man, I love discussing things with old musicians (ask Russ ). chas
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"Faith means not wanting to know what is true." [Nietzsche]
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