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#491817 - 03/17/20 01:40 PM How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra!
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#491820 - 03/17/20 01:48 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Jerryghr]
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https://www.youtube.com/user/akibon929/videos


Everything she plays is simply AMAZING! keys

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#491826 - 03/17/20 02:21 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Jerryghr]
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Amazing is right what talent!

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#491827 - 03/17/20 02:34 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Stephenm52]
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Amazing is right what talent!


Absolutely One of the best Yamaha demonstrators Super Player!

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#491831 - 03/17/20 03:46 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Jerryghr]
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OMG, that was riveting. What a talent.
Truly amazing, thank you for sharing that clip.
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#491832 - 03/17/20 03:48 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
https://www.youtube.com/user/akibon929/videos


Everything she plays is simply AMAZING! keys


You’re not kidding, Donny.
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#491839 - 03/17/20 04:48 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Jerryghr]
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Fantastic performance !!! I.m guessing the drum track and program changes were pre -programmed?
I have a special memory of that song. Years ago I had a great trio. Keys (me) drums and a good frontman. I did an arrangement of that tune with my B3, Rhoads, and String Synth. Went over pretty good. Next tune the singer does My Way which was new at the time and the place goes crazy. Lesson learned "its all about the vocals "
dance2
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#491840 - 03/17/20 04:48 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Jerryghr]
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wow!
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#491847 - 03/17/20 05:09 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
Fantastic performance !!! I.m guessing the drum track and program changes were pre -programmed?
I have a special memory of that song. Years ago I had a great trio. Keys (me) drums and a good frontman. I did an arrangement of that tune with my B3, Rhoads, and String Synth. Went over pretty good. Next tune the singer does My Way which was new at the time and the place goes crazy. Lesson learned "its all about the vocals "
dance2


Bill, My memory of it is that with the band in NY when we started playing weddings we would bring in the bridal party playing "A Pretty Girl is Like a Melody", then in the 60s went to "The Girl Watchers Theme" or "Girl From Ipanema", and then in the 70s went to "Love's Theme" ...

This young lady is QUITE talented ...
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#491849 - 03/17/20 06:56 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: tony mads usa]
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Organ Players:

Providing they are not playing with a backing file ---
1-Bass pedals
2-Left hand
3-right hand
4-Programed drums

Because they are playing the organ, more is required from the them --- and because more is required, they play better than the arranger player - (normally)

Other than drums, organ players play all the parts, which allows them to play with more expression. The melody is out front, left hand chords support the right hand, and the bass fills the room.

You can get some of their sound by eliminating most of the Accomp. But then, you have to play better. I love left hand bass, but it will not fit everywhere.
More of my thoughts, John C.

PS, after all the organ concerts I went to, I finally bought a Delta 500 Wersi organ with column speakers on either side. After three months of lessons, I hated what I sounded like. Out it went.

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#491853 - 03/17/20 08:32 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Jerryghr]
Bill Lewis Offline
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I played organ with bass pedals plus other side keyboards and sang for many years. I just don't get where those perfect drum backing tracks come from and I hear registrations change but see no movement by the player. I'm going to listen and watch again
Fantastic preformance !
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#491854 - 03/17/20 10:14 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: bruno123]
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Originally Posted By bruno123
Organ Players:

Providing they are not playing with a backing file ---
1-Bass pedals
2-Left hand
3-right hand
4-Programed drums

Because they are playing the organ, more is required from the them --- and because more is required, they play better than the arranger player - (normally)

Other than drums, organ players play all the parts, which allows them to play with more expression. The melody is out front, left hand chords support the right hand, and the bass fills the room.

You can get some of their sound by eliminating most of the Accomp. But then, you have to play better. I love left hand bass, but it will not fit everywhere.
More of my thoughts, John C.

PS, after all the organ concerts I went to, I finally bought a Delta 500 Wersi organ with column speakers on either side. After three months of lessons, I hated what I sounded like. Out it went.


What really makes this impressive is that she has a solo voice on both the left as well on the right hand which only plays the top note or last played note...

This is one of the things i would love to see on Arranger keyboards.. my Roland Jupiter also supports this for the right hand part...

It can be somewhat mimmicked by selecting a monophonice voice..

There is not many players that have this tech perfected with both hands..
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#491857 - 03/17/20 11:41 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Bill Lewis]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
I just don't get where those perfect drum backing tracks come from and I hear registrations change but see no movement by the player.


If you watch the preset buttons you'll see them change. In this case he apparently sequenced a drum track but also added registration changes and programmed it so that the presets jump and skip around to the desired setting.

Another way to do it is to use kick switches on the expression pedal to change registrations, but that was not used in this video.

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#491858 - 03/17/20 11:43 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Bill Lewis]
rikkisbears Offline
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
I played organ with bass pedals plus other side keyboards and sang for many years. I just don't get where those perfect drum backing tracks come from and I hear registrations change but see no movement by the player. I'm going to listen and watch again
Fantastic preformance !


Hi
Could the registrations be sequenced?
Don’t know anything about organs, but there is some sort of clock running on the left hand side.

Amazing performance.


With the sx I can just tap a foot pedal and the registrations follow the order I programmed them in. Ie tap reg goes from 1 to 2, tap 2 to 5 , tap 5 to 8, whatever order I want them in.
Could she be doing something similar with bass pedals, I don’t know anything about them.
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#491859 - 03/18/20 12:27 AM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: rikkisbears]
mdorantes Offline
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Hello friends

I was an Electone player for many years, from the Analog days Models D2B, E10 AR, then went to Hammond, did comeback to Electone FX1(first Digital organ), then HS6 (2) with modules CVS10 and AVS10 plus MDR3s, then EL 90...

The last to series had Registration sequencer and also 4 sequencer for the Drum patters User and or Factory....She is using both, I programed those organs for the Electone Festivals for many years, that ended here in USA, when YCA decided no to carry that line, many organ companies had gone under then, and now only a handful of subsidiaries carry the Electones that still popular, most Asian countries, Mexico, England....perhaps other that I am not aware.

I miss playing the Electones, but at the same time, gigging at my age, I think will be very challenging to carry and setup, transport etc...so, I am happy with my Genos.
If I could have one of those Electones, I will have it just at home for my own enjoyment.

My 2 cents

Manuel
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#491861 - 03/18/20 05:47 AM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Jerryghr]
Bachus Offline
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This is the mobile version of the electone
Almost the same capabilities as the els
It only misses the VA solo voices.

It also gives a good idea about performances..
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#491869 - 03/18/20 09:32 AM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Jerryghr]
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What Scott said... her right foot never leaves the swell pedal. There are at least two rocker switches on either side which can be used for advancing registrations, etc. I would wager that's how she's changing the drum pattern.

AND what Bachus said. Left-hand technique with the top note for melody is what makes this so realistic. Amazing performance from a very talented performer!!

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#491939 - 03/18/20 04:54 PM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Jerryghr]
Bill Lewis Offline
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I've learned something, the ability to program registrations along with drumbeats. Sort of like an extension of a SMF. Would't it be a great addition to SMFs if registrations could be controlled on Arrangers?
Interesting stuff, these TOP organs cando amazingthins , especially inthe hands of and expert.
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#491971 - 03/19/20 02:00 AM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
I've learned something, the ability to program registrations along with drumbeats. Sort of like an extension of a SMF. Would't it be a great addition to SMFs if registrations could be controlled on Arrangers?
Interesting stuff, these TOP organs cando amazingthins , especially inthe hands of and expert.


Go to page 27 of this PDF manual here that explains the Wersi OAX style sequencer.

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#491998 - 03/19/20 10:29 AM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: Jerryghr]
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Edited by Dnj (03/19/20 10:36 AM)

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#492011 - 03/19/20 11:40 AM Re: How to mimic a 40 piece orchestra! [Re: abacus]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By abacus
Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
I've learned something, the ability to program registrations along with drumbeats. Sort of like an extension of a SMF. Would't it be a great addition to SMFs if registrations could be controlled on Arrangers?
Interesting stuff, these TOP organs cando amazingthins , especially inthe hands of and expert.


Go to page 27 of this PDF manual here that explains the Wersi OAX style sequencer.

Bill


I dont see anything at first sight that Genos 2.0 can not do...
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