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#491903 - 03/18/20 01:01 PM
Re: More bad news for entertainers!
[Re: DonM]
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Registered: 02/03/04
Posts: 76
Loc: Saline, Mi. USA
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#491940 - 03/18/20 04:22 PM
Re: More bad news for entertainers!
[Re: DonM]
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Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 2445
Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA
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What I think of is all these venues getting back to normal but trying to makeup for lost time. What's the first to go to cut the budget ?--Entertainment. And that includes NH, Do without it long enough and it will be forgotten and deemed unnecessary. As a side story friends of mine, and excellent husband and wife duo, Ross2, have been doing between 2-4 nights at a popular place in Shelter Cove Marina, a hotspot on Hilton Head. Due to husbands health issues the wife hired a new manager. So he has to prove he can improve things,- first cut ? Ross2 from and average of three nights to one.
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#492025 - 03/19/20 12:03 PM
Re: More bad news for entertainers!
[Re: DonM]
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Registered: 11/11/04
Posts: 708
Loc: Russia
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This new reality is quite a challenge. What a peaceful time we just had recently. I’m thinking about finding some job in delivery – just want to ride my car and deliver some things; it should provide me with some pocket money and keep me sane. Staying at home reading news is probably going to be much more harmful that the virus itself.
But as I had an ambition to become a composer or a songwriter, I guess, facing these challenges should be some source of emotions to me, which will transform into music later.
As we can judge now, the virus is not really that harmful; only numbers without the context can be frightening; but these anticipations, problems with the economy, they produce a lot of stress.
I guess, a lot of political stuff, which seemed to be so important before, now really looks as empty as it really is.
And, maybe, this is the lesson to be learnt. People saw other people as source of their problems and unhappiness; now we have an enemy which is not like people at all. Scientists of all countries unite and work hard, doctors work hard; and governments are now really need to show themselves as good managers.
In the same time, while we share one common threat right now, or an idea of it, a lot of personal stuff is going on with everyone, and objectively speaking, that stuff can be more important. For example, I often see a man not far from my house, who looks like a good man, he walks together with his daughter, who obviously has some serious disorder. I see how he’s tired of it and still committed to it (no signs of a mother); till recently his daughter was walking by herself, but last time I saw her in a wheelchair. So I probably should feel ashamed if I feel that the risk of getting some flu makes me very special. Life sometimes seems wonderful, sometimes it doesn’t seem fair. Sometimes it looks like people build a great society, sometimes it looks like one just wants to enslave another.
But what inspires me is how each one has his purpose. In some way I believe, that when a person doesn’t have this feeling of a purpose, that’s when he becomes a negative version of a human being. I know a doctor, a woman and my former neighbor, she’s been a doctor for all her long life and as she said, she had always known what she was supposed to be.
I’m also inspired by how beautiful this world is. It makes you believe that any sorts of evil is some sort of abnormality.
Well, probably I’m trying to distract myself with these reflections. While doing that, I concluded, that too much work/effort/obsession eventually turns into making stupid mistakes and bad decisions.
I’m grateful for the opportunity to communicate with you all; after all, everything in life would be meaningless if it can’t be shared with other people.
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#492062 - 03/19/20 04:44 PM
Re: More bad news for entertainers!
[Re: DonM]
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
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Sergey, that was beautifully said. Thank you. I'm thinking that non-Americans may misinterpret the original message, as it was joke because the amount of income lost by the "musicians in Seattle" was so ridiculously small. Of course none of that was true. However, there certainly is a big problem with our ability to work, interact and carry on normal lives. Sergey is exactly right with his thoughts. I can survive without my income, but believe me there will have to be compromises made to compensate for it. Haha, I missed the decimal point in the $476.50. Still had to agree with Fran, though. Haha The big financial crisis, a few years back, the government at the time was so busy splashing out money, they were sending $1,000 cheque’s to Citizens who lived overseas, who had no intention of stimulating our economy. Dead people, who’s relatives happily cashed them. and Dogs who had been given human names. It would have been laughable except they were squandering money from decent people who paid taxes. Thank goodness the other side of politics is in charge this time round. Haha
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#492076 - 03/19/20 05:41 PM
Re: More bad news for entertainers!
[Re: DonM]
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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In Washington state, which I resided in back in the late 1960s, the pay scale for a nite club musician, single act, have guitar will travel guy, was, on average, $25 for a 4-hour performance, plus free food and beer. And, they were damned glad to get it! From what I am able to determine, mainly from OMB entertainers I know throughout the nation, most restaurants and nite clubs pay $100 for week nights, and $150 for Friday and Saturday. The only exception I know of is the casinos, which tend to pay about twice that amount. However, casino jobs are hard to come by, at least around here. So, Don, your pay scale might not have been that far off the mark. All the best, Gary
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#492106 - 03/19/20 11:23 PM
Re: More bad news for entertainers!
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1661
Loc: USA
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In Washington state, which I resided in back in the late 1960s, the pay scale for a nite club musician, single act, have guitar will travel guy, was, on average, $25 for a 4-hour performance, plus free food and beer. And, they were damned glad to get it! Gary...did that bring back memories! I remember....working seven nights a week including Monday's, Tuesday's, etc. The places were packed with people...at the bar...on the dance floor. I would throw my equipment (accordion and amp) into the trunk of my 1965 Chevy, setup was 5 minutes (plug the cable into the instrument and the other end into the amp). Strict dress code...either a tuxedo or a sport jacket. And every job paid the same for years...$25 CASH! (a heck of a lot in those days!).
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#492273 - 03/20/20 10:04 PM
Re: More bad news for entertainers!
[Re: DonM]
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Senior Member
Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1661
Loc: USA
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Kabinopous, your talking and your "playing" are the same....deeply mired in emotion. That was a compliment.
I've been thinking about this for a long time now. Pop music has absolutely no melody to it these days. The attraction to young people, who are pretty much lost in life, is the...."message" with the song being the "carrier." Stupid lyrics like: "Baby, my eyes are open now, I see you like I never did before, come back to me and we'll make it work now and forever." I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea. People let the song lyrics say what they are unable to express to each other.
So...why don't you take your song writing strengths and combine it with your philosophical and emotional thoughts/messages (like you expressed above) and make some money writing good music with good words?
Instead of your repetitious "come back to me, baby" written into every song made in the last 20 years, maybe an original song with some of your thoughts stated above integrated into it. I think people are ready for something like this and the musical world can do with some of the same. I can see you writing and putting lyrics to a song like the Windmills of Your Mind. That song is 100% you.
Up to the 70's, most songs were about "love" in some way, shape or form. I referred to them as "love songs." I refer to today's junk music as "message songs" (with mindless messages).
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