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#493178 - 03/30/20 05:32 AM
Re: SD7 impressions .... after many years away
[Re: rikkisbears]
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Wow, a lot of stuff here, it’s good to know there are other views.
My View: When playing full left-hand chords. Much of this is based on my guitar when playing rhythm chords. There were times when it was a duo, Sax and Guitar.
1-Turn the rhythm off.
2-Assign an instrument that will add to my right-hand instrument.
3-Set the velocity to sensitive, so you can play soft and louder with the same volume setting. 4-Play the chord progression. The chord progression should be telling a story of their own – with only one thought, supporting the vocal, or solo.
5-Play both together –how does I sound?
6-Turn the rhythm and play.
Because our keyboards are limited in some areas we have to work around those problems.
Rikki, if you are using full left-hand chords the is my suggestion. Learn the most used chords in the key your are playing.
Key of Cmajor --- In order of importance. C G7 F play them all in the same position. In some cases the instrument you are using is too low, too muddy – raise it one octave.
Key of Gmajor --- G D7 C For G I use D G B For D7 I use D F# A C (same position) For C I use C E G My left-hand sound is important, so I am not concerned with the bass line normally.
If you want more on this subject, let me know, John C.
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#493181 - 03/30/20 07:55 AM
Re: SD7 impressions .... after many years away
[Re: Uncle Dave]
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I will add one more thing. Some do not use a left hand instrument,and can get away with more as far as ascending and descending chords are concerned. Piano player,of coarse, know this very well.
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#493193 - 03/30/20 09:50 AM
Re: SD7 impressions .... after many years away
[Re: Bernie9]
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I will add one more thing. Some do not use a left hand instrument,and can get away with more as far as ascending and descending chords are concerned. Piano player,of coarse, know this very well. Yup - that's me. I never use a LH sound, because I am playing full chord/melodies with the RH. I use the auto acc parts as a backup to my piano arrangement, which is the best way to compliment my ideas, and vocal choices. Before arrangers, I used a manual synth for bass, and played everything else with my RH, so when the gear got better - I didn't change the approach. I still play manual bass most of the time, but I appreciate the freedom that the auto acc parts give me, and I like how they fill up some of the holes in the arrangement. Sidenote: In smaller, more intimate settings, I almost NEVER use any auto acc parts. When the instrument is not moving air in significant amounts, the auto stuff sounds less realistic. I switch between auto and manual bass as comfort dictates, but mostly ,y sound is a piano/bass/drums trio with a singer ... and that's worked well for me all these years.
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#493229 - 03/30/20 02:42 PM
Re: SD7 impressions .... after many years away
[Re: bruno123]
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Wow, a lot of stuff here, it’s good to know there are other views.
My View: When playing full left-hand chords. Much of this is based on my guitar when playing rhythm chords. There were times when it was a duo, Sax and Guitar.
1-Turn the rhythm off.
2-Assign an instrument that will add to my right-hand instrument.
3-Set the velocity to sensitive, so you can play soft and louder with the same volume setting. 4-Play the chord progression. The chord progression should be telling a story of their own – with only one thought, supporting the vocal, or solo.
5-Play both together –how does I sound?
6-Turn the rhythm and play.
Because our keyboards are limited in some areas we have to work around those problems.
Hi John, Thank you for some good ideas. Even though I play full left hand chords, to date, I’ve really only played held left hand pads, strings. Really like to be able to do left hand piano, ( ie not just a held chord) but as you said, arrangers do have some limitations.
Rikki, if you are using full left-hand chords the is my suggestion. Learn the most used chords in the key your are playing.
Key of Cmajor --- In order of importance. C G7 F play them all in the same position. In some cases the instrument you are using is too low, too muddy – raise it one octave.
Key of Gmajor --- G D7 C For G I use D G B For D7 I use D F# A C (same position) For C I use C E G My left-hand sound is important, so I am not concerned with the bass line normally.
If you want more on this subject, let me know, John C.
I will do John , Thank you. I signed up for an online piano course a few months back when I bought the p121/sx900. It is proving to be quite helpful. ie. what to practice. Years ago I spent nearly all my time doing scales, hanon , cerny, which (probably necessary if one wants to become a really good pianist), but I only wanted to entertain myself. After doing hours of that each day, didn’t leave much time for actually learning a tune. Haha. The course basically suggests what you mentioned. For the song you want to play, Practice the chords (in different inversions, ) practice “the scale,” and do some exercises to strengthen fingers and build up speed. Also learning about chord progressions ( one part of the course is 500 songs in 5 days) 500 songs based on 4 chords, had no idea that was possible as I’d never really paid any attention to the chords in a song. I know how to play the chords ( I had learnt how chords were constructed) but, didn’t understand that certain chords are likely to be in a song , depending on the key. Nearly got sucked back into learning piano, but, takes a lot longer to learn a solo piano piece vs learning a song for my arranger. Simple split L/R hand ,I could possibly learn a fairly basic version of a song I am familiar with in a couple of days or so, a nice sounding solo piano piece could take me weeks or months. Think I’ll go for volume and variety. Haha, and hopefully incorporate some of the tips I’m picking from the course into arranger playing.
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