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#493936 - 04/08/20 12:49 PM Tyros 5
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I've had them all imo ketron,korg,roland doesn't
come close to the amazing sound of Tyros5 or 4, in every catagory..... for some reason a much warmer, robust sound,.





Edited by Dnj (04/11/20 07:30 AM)

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#493939 - 04/08/20 01:21 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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I think I have watch all of his videos. He is really a very talented man. I have a Tyros 5 and like it very much. I wish I could play like him. Especially his jazz piano pieces.

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#493941 - 04/08/20 01:28 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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Sol +1

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#493942 - 04/08/20 01:47 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
ketron,korg,roland doesn't
come close to the amazing sound of Tyros5 or 4, in every catagory.....



This is exactly how you get slammed - posting these "better than sliced bread" comments about EVERYTHING (yes, everything) you own ... WHILE you own it.
I was waiting for this one. You held out pretty long though ... more than a month before you pledged your undying affection for the GREATEST keyboard of all time!
You crack me up. Seriously. rotf2
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#493945 - 04/08/20 02:11 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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So dave you don't agree?
What's the sense let me go put my mask back on... when someone shows me something better maybe I'll change my mind but for now that's my opinion..

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#493947 - 04/08/20 02:46 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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It’s the same demo that has been used for pretty much all the Tyros range, so is pretty boring these days.
Another thing is the demos never tell you what ancillary equipment they use (And the owner will need) to get that sort of sound out. (Speakers that arranger manufacture fob you off with always suck big time)

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#493949 - 04/08/20 03:41 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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Hi Donny,
the demo sounded great, but let’s face it, he’s one hell of a player.
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#493950 - 04/08/20 04:04 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: solomon8]
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Originally Posted By solomon8
I wish I could play like him. Especially his jazz piano pieces.


Believe it or not when I went to his clinic at Orlando Pianos he said in his car his radio is tuned to a classical music station. I seem to remember he mentioned that was also his favorite type of music. No matter nice demo!

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#493951 - 04/08/20 04:32 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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Yes Ricky he certainly is one of the best demonstrate is in the world I remember him years ago demonstrating for Roland also.... that said tyros is hard to beat

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#493952 - 04/08/20 04:32 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Stephenm52]
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Steve I would have loved to been there to see that demonstration a true artist in every sense of the word..

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#493953 - 04/08/20 04:37 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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Great demo Thanks. It does sound great and the player is top notch but with my limited exposure to other brands of keyboards I'd tend to believe you could sound as good with any of the TOP ones. Just takes a lot of time and patience to work with it and learn the system.
Have fun you've got a great keyboard.
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#493954 - 04/08/20 04:48 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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Almost every style he played were audio drum styles. Pity there weren't more of them and that Yamaha quit making them.
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#493955 - 04/08/20 05:08 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
So dave you don't agree?
What's the sense let me go put my mask back on... when someone shows me something better maybe I'll change my mind but for now that's my opinion..


I honestly don't even think YOU agree. It's just your impulsive M.O. Not a bad thing, but pretty predictable. I'm glad you like it. really, I am.
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#493956 - 04/08/20 05:09 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
Almost every style he played were audio drum styles..


Donny hates the audio styles. Has no use for them.
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#493959 - 04/08/20 05:29 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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I loved that first song and recognized the style from S970, SX900 and Genos. The audio styles will play on the 900 and Genos, but you have to download and put them into the kb.
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#493969 - 04/08/20 06:34 PM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Steve I would have loved to been there to see that demonstration a true artist in every sense of the word..


Donny, It was one of those rare opportunities. I found out a day before he was going to do the clinic in the afternoon then a concert in the evening. I was not able to stay for the evening but I did the afternoon clinic, there were a total of 5 of us it was great.

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#493978 - 04/09/20 12:18 AM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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Still like him in his Kurtzweil days during the late 80s, here is a song from one of his CDs https://app.box.com/s/el187iyfk4dkme227ni3vszp5ewubz19

Audio drums were first introduced to the arranger/organ market in around 2000 by Ketron & Wersi.

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#493981 - 04/09/20 03:17 AM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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#493989 - 04/09/20 07:13 AM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By DonM
Almost every style he played were audio drum styles..


Donny hates the audio styles. Has no use for them.


Yep,... still do not like them..
..without being able to edit the style parts I have no use for them. That said there are too many great styles to use besides
audio styles.


https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/style-files/latin-audio-styles-7?___store=us_retail_en&


Edited by Dnj (04/09/20 08:07 AM)

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#493992 - 04/09/20 08:12 AM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By DonM
Almost every style he played were audio drum styles..


Donny hates the audio styles. Has no use for them.


Yep still do
..without being able to edit the style parts I have no use for them. That said there are too many great styles to use besides
audio styles.


I am not a fan of the audio drums either.
- Cannot edit
- Sound terrible when trying to change (slow down) the tempo.
- When performing, the the change in sound is too drastic when
playing a song with normal styles to audio styles.

The styles have nice intros, endings and variations and have been converted to regular styles by players. Those are the ones I use.

Jerryghr

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#493993 - 04/09/20 08:15 AM Re: TYROS 5 Demo simply brilliant [Re: Jerryghr]
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Originally Posted By Jerryghr



Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By DonM
Almost every style he played were audio drum styles..


Donny hates the audio styles. Has no use for them.


Yep still do
..without being able to edit the style parts I have no use for them. That said there are too many great styles to use besides
audio styles.


I am not a fan of the audio drums either.
- Cannot edit
- Sound terrible when trying to change (slow down) the tempo.
- When performing, the the change in sound is too drastic when
playing a song with normal styles to audio styles.

The styles have nice intros, endings and variations and have been converted to regular styles by players. Those are the ones I use.

Jerryghr


+1



Edited by Dnj (04/09/20 08:19 AM)

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#494055 - 04/09/20 07:58 PM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj


I've had them all imo ketron,korg,roland doesn't
come close to the amazing sound of Tyros5 or 4, in every catagory..... for some reason a much warmer, robust sound,.





..."Ketron doesn't come close..."
This is a true statement indeed. Ketron can't lead and come close at the same time. Others try to catch up to it's capabilities and technology such as Audio styles ... etc, but it just keeps ... leading and not coming close.
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#494066 - 04/10/20 08:05 AM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Prince AJ,

......I respect your opinion as always ..
but I have to go by what I hear & touch.

Stay Safe

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#494069 - 04/10/20 08:54 AM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Dnj]
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#494099 - 04/10/20 11:33 AM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Dnj]
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I miss Michael Voncken's presentations.

Although Peter Bartmaans is a great player, the average person could not mimic most of his playing. I apply more of Michael Voncken's techniques and songs to my own performances. (except for the Schlager material).

Jerryghr

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#494100 - 04/10/20 11:36 AM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Jerryghr]
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Originally Posted By Jerryghr
I miss Michael Voncken's presentations.

Although Peter Bartmaans is a great player, the average person could not mimic most of his playing. I apply more of Michael Voncken's techniques and songs to my own performances. (except for the Schlager material).

Jerryghr



Wonder where hes working,playing now after leaving Yamaha?

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#494105 - 04/10/20 11:52 AM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj


Wonder where hes working,playing now after leaving Yamaha?


New committments.


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#494107 - 04/10/20 11:54 AM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Dnj]
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He looks truly terrified! Don't worry ... it's gets easier the more you do it.
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#494108 - 04/10/20 11:57 AM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
He looks truly terrified! Don't worry ... it's gets easier the more you do it.
laugh2


at least she is a REDHEAD.

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#494110 - 04/10/20 12:10 PM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Dnj]
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He is running a music school.

You can see him in two of the pictures.


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#494111 - 04/10/20 12:14 PM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Jerryghr]
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I'm surprised Korg or better yet Ketron doesn't scoop him up to demonstrate their units..!!

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#494115 - 04/10/20 12:49 PM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
He looks truly terrified! Don't worry ... it's gets easier the more you do it.
laugh2


at least she is a REDHEAD.


Maybe that's what terrifies him!
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#494116 - 04/10/20 12:50 PM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
I'm surprised Korg or better yet Ketron doesn't scoop him up to demonstrate their units..!!


I'm gonna hit up AJ for that job, so he gives me an SD60.
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#494164 - 04/11/20 07:02 AM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: Jerryghr]
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Originally Posted By Jerryghr
I miss Michael Voncken's presentations.

Although Peter Bartmaans is a great player, the average person could not mimic most of his playing. I apply more of Michael Voncken's techniques and songs to my own performances. (except for the Schlager material).

Jerryghr


Exactly right. Voncken was doing what most people who have an arranger want to do and believe they could pull off (whether they actually could or not) . They admire Bartmaans but most can never perform at that level.

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#494169 - 04/11/20 08:26 AM Re: Tyros 5 [Re: Dnj]
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Here is his link for selling Tyros 5 products...not sure if they are styles or midi songs... my German is "nicht".

Michel Voncken Website
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#494170 - 04/11/20 08:37 AM Re: Tyros 5 Demo [Re: W Tracy Parnell]
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Originally Posted By W Tracy Parnell
Originally Posted By Jerryghr
I miss Michael Voncken's presentations.

Although Peter Bartmaans is a great player, the average person could not mimic most of his playing. I apply more of Michael Voncken's techniques and songs to my own performances. (except for the Schlager material).

Jerryghr


Exactly right. Voncken was doing what most people who have an arranger want to do and believe they could pull off (whether they actually could or not) . They admire Bartmaans but most can never perform at that level.


Personally I always thought Martin Harris is better
then both of them..

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#494180 - 04/11/20 01:50 PM Re: Tyros 5 [Re: saxxman]
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Originally Posted By saxxman
Here is his link for selling Tyros 5 products...not sure if they are styles or midi songs... my German is "nicht".

Michel Voncken Website


Hi Randy,
I think you get Registration Banks for the 5 songs and possibly the 5 midi files.

My German is pretty bad. Haha
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