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#494973 - 04/19/20 06:52 AM Re: Piano Fingering [Re: Bernie9]
Dnj Offline
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Bernie....I admire your effort & persistence to learn piano....
I tried it 3x in the past but after a while
I realized I am not a piano player but an Arranger keyboard player
big difference wink ....so I gave it up, sold off the pianos,
and returned to what I do best play arranger kb & sing.

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#494974 - 04/19/20 06:56 AM Re: Piano Fingering [Re: Bernie9]
cgiles Offline
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Yeah, but what would life be if we only did what was easy. Challenge is what makes most of us get up in the morning. Remember, it's the JOURNEY......

chas
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#494975 - 04/19/20 07:06 AM Re: Piano Fingering [Re: cgiles]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Yeah, but what would life be if we only did what was easy. Challenge is what makes most of us get up in the morning. Remember, it's the JOURNEY......

chas


yes but the journey and road always comes to an end..

life is to short to dilly dally

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#494976 - 04/19/20 07:16 AM Re: Piano Fingering [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Bernie....I admire your effort & persistence to learn piano....
I tried it 3x in the past but after a while
I realized I am not a piano player but an Arranger keyboard player
big difference wink ....so I gave it up, sold off the pianos,
and returned to what I do best play arranger kb & sing.


If your a good singer, a very simple piano accompaniment will get you very far. The chord skills you have on an arranger can pretty easily transfer to basic vocal accompaniment on the piano. Think of all those quarter note rock ballads like "Let it Be" "Imagine" "Don't Stop Believing" You really don't have to be a piano virtuoso to play that kind of stuff. I say any arranger player that sings should have at least a couple songs that they can do just as a piano/ vocal. Someday you're going to be at a party and there will be an acoustic piano, and your friends are going to ask to to play and sing something. Are you going to be a party pooper and say you can only play an arranger keyboard?

Actually awhile back I went to a nursing home looking for work. I introduce myself " Hi, I'm Paul, I play keyboards and sing...."
The activity director says " Ok, there's a piano in the corner, let's see what you got" I almost started to make an excuse, saying that I would need my special keyboard that can sound like a whole orchestra, but I just went for it and she hired me. When I did the gig, I brought my keyboard, speakers, mic..... After the show, she said, why did you bring all that equipment? She went on to say, she liked it better when I just played on the house piano and sang. So that's what I do at that place now. Less gear to lug around!
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#494977 - 04/19/20 07:18 AM Re: Piano Fingering [Re: Bernie9]
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Donny.
Well, I guess everyone has his/her own philosophy of life. Mine, the journey; yours, the destination. I guess I just don't see the benefit of discouraging someone from doing something just because it's hard. What about the joy of overcoming a challenge or accomplishing something you thought you couldn't. The truth is, everybody's 'destination' is going to be the same, so you might as well make the best of the journey.

chas


Edited by cgiles (04/19/20 07:20 AM)
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#494978 - 04/19/20 07:24 AM Re: Piano Fingering [Re: cgiles]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Donny.
Well, I guess everyone has his/her own philosophy of life. Mine, the journey; yours, the destination. I guess I just don't see the benefit of discouraging someone from doing something just because it's hard. What about the joy of overcoming a challenge or accomplishing something you thought you couldn't. The truth is, everybody's 'destination' is going to be the same, so you might as well make the best of the journey.

chas


Chas why are you always looking to stir the pot?

my quote: "Bernie....
I admire your effort & persistence to learn piano.."


I thought was positive...

the rest was all about "my own personal experience" of which in no way was to discourage Bernie. But of course you had to spin it in a way to be a negative thing. I was being honest nothing wrong with that. Kinda early in the morning to argue.....mask back on now.

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#494979 - 04/19/20 07:25 AM Re: Piano Fingering [Re: montunoman]
cgiles Offline
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Originally Posted By montunoman

If your a good singer, a very simple piano accompaniment will get you very far. The chord skills you have on an arranger can pretty easily transfer to basic vocal accompaniment on the piano. Think of all those quarter note rock ballads like "Let it Be" "Imagine" "Don't Stop Believing" You really don't have to be a piano virtuoso to play that kind of stuff. I say any arranger player that sings should have at least a couple songs that they can do just as a piano/ vocal. Someday you're going to be at a party and there will be an acoustic piano, and your friends are going to ask to to play and sing something. Are you going to be a party pooper and say you can only play an arranger keyboard?

Actually awhile back I went to a nursing home looking for work. I introduce myself " Hi, I'm Paul, I play keyboards and sing...."
The activity director says " Ok, there's a piano in the corner, let's see what you got" I almost started to make an excuse, saying that I would need my special keyboard that can sound like a whole orchestra, but I just went for it and she hired me. When I did the gig, I brought my keyboard, speakers, mic..... After the show, she said, why did you bring all that equipment? She went on to say, she liked it better when I just played on the house piano and sang. So that's what I do at that place now. Less gear to lug around!


Can we frame this post?

chas
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#494980 - 04/19/20 07:30 AM Re: Piano Fingering [Re: Dnj]
cgiles Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By cgiles
Yeah, but what would life be if we only did what was easy. Challenge is what makes most of us get up in the morning. Remember, it's the JOURNEY......

chas


yes but the journey and road always comes to an end..

life is to short to dilly dally



Sorry. Wasn't trying to 'stir the pot'. I guess I misread your above post. Apologies.

chas
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#494988 - 04/19/20 09:46 AM Re: Piano Fingering [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Originally Posted By montunoman

If your a good singer, a very simple piano accompaniment will get you very far. The chord skills you have on an arranger can pretty easily transfer to basic vocal accompaniment on the piano. Think of all those quarter note rock ballads like "Let it Be" "Imagine" "Don't Stop Believing" You really don't have to be a piano virtuoso to play that kind of stuff. I say any arranger player that sings should have at least a couple songs that they can do just as a piano/ vocal. Someday you're going to be at a party and there will be an acoustic piano, and your friends are going to ask to to play and sing something. Are you going to be a party pooper and say you can only play an arranger keyboard?

Actually awhile back I went to a nursing home looking for work. I introduce myself " Hi, I'm Paul, I play keyboards and sing...."
The activity director says " Ok, there's a piano in the corner, let's see what you got" I almost started to make an excuse, saying that I would need my special keyboard that can sound like a whole orchestra, but I just went for it and she hired me. When I did the gig, I brought my keyboard, speakers, mic..... After the show, she said, why did you bring all that equipment? She went on to say, she liked it better when I just played on the house piano and sang. So that's what I do at that place now. Less gear to lug around!


Can we frame this post?

chas


Thank you Chase. Being the father of a teenage daughter and a high school teacher, I feel like most advice I give falls onto deaf ears.
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#495020 - 04/19/20 02:33 PM Re: Piano Fingering [Re: Bernie9]
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Montunoman

It certainly is excellent,and thank you for the advice from one of the best. You just lowered the bar

Bernie


Edited by Bernie9 (04/19/20 02:34 PM)
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