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#495387 - 04/22/20 06:20 PM Throw back
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Listening to Dave's lackluster tracks (admitted), I listened to some of my tracks from 10 years ago..

This keyboard sounds better than Ketron, Roland, (Yamaha and Korg are not in the running) smile

You guys can guess what it is... 24 bit 192khz sound.

https://app.box.com/s/xyqwi1aucva3platianvcgn8224w1mae
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#495411 - 04/23/20 06:48 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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Farfisa G7?


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#495426 - 04/23/20 10:25 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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You think that the Farfisa G7 could sound better than Roland , Ketron, Yamaha or Korg... and pristine quality sound? shocked


It is the MediaStation (Giga samples).
The MS is Giga sound as it's sound source, and also the choice of Dream chip 64.

This is all basic Giga table.

What made the MS shine... the audio quality.
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#495432 - 04/23/20 10:39 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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Kool..
Too bad MS went under
good concept..

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#495462 - 04/24/20 05:48 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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Well, this is a Pa4x and that track doesn't come close to sounding like this:

https://soundcloud.com/timur-sakka/korg-...qY9kDckrCy42eAo
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#495465 - 04/24/20 06:31 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
Listening to Dave's lackluster tracks (admitted), I listened to some of my tracks from 10 years ago..

This keyboard sounds better than Ketron, Roland, (Yamaha and Korg are not in the running) smile

You guys can guess what it is... 24 bit 192khz sound.

https://app.box.com/s/xyqwi1aucva3platianvcgn8224w1mae



First of all as regards Dave's Ketron SD7 recordings: in as far as they are recorded directly from the line out of the SD7 they sound anything but lackluster and far superior to "Testing, 1,2,3 " ( Roland G70 ) for starters.
No wonder that both Donny and Don were initially vying for pole position to get his SD7 once he has been able to take delivery of the SD60.

Also this Mediastation track does not impress me at all. The string section saves the recording, the accompaniment is horrible both in sound and in monotony. Simply dreadful.....

regards
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#495467 - 04/24/20 06:34 AM Re: Throw back [Re: kbrkr]
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Originally Posted By kbrkr
Well, this is a Pa4x and that track doesn't come close to sounding like this:

https://soundcloud.com/timur-sakka/korg-...qY9kDckrCy42eAo





Al you are right... the MediaStation is so much clearer, and pristine sound quality. The Korg relies on the effects to cover up the audio quality..

The difference in the style of music, has no reflection on the quality of the audio.

Personally , I don't care for your demo example..

We will just have to have different opinions.
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#495468 - 04/24/20 06:44 AM Re: Throw back [Re: john smies]
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally Posted By john smies
Originally Posted By Fran Carango
Listening to Dave's lackluster tracks (admitted), I listened to some of my tracks from 10 years ago..

This keyboard sounds better than Ketron, Roland, (Yamaha and Korg are not in the running) smile

You guys can guess what it is... 24 bit 192khz sound.

https://app.box.com/s/xyqwi1aucva3platianvcgn8224w1mae



First of all as regards Dave's Ketron SD7 recordings: in as far as they are recorded directly from the line out of the SD7 they sound anything but lackluster and far superior to "Testing, 1,2,3 " ( Roland G70 ) for starters.
No wonder that both Donny and Don were initially vying for pole position to get his SD7 once he has been able to take delivery of the SD60.

Also this Mediastation track does not impress me at all. The string section saves the recording, the accompaniment is horrible both in sound and in monotony. Simply dreadful.....

regards
John






John did you get out of the wrong side of bed?

First the tracks that were in discussion are older MP3 tracks of other gear.

If you recall I told you to go for the SD7 via our email. I am a firm supporter of Ketron.

My example of the MS is not to showcase the track seq.. but to show the pristine sound quality.. (apparently many folks here can't hear :))

And my testing 1,2,3.....is showing me a lot about SZ grin



Edited by Fran Carango (04/24/20 06:50 AM)
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#495469 - 04/24/20 06:53 AM Re: Throw back [Re: john smies]
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Originally Posted By john smies
[quote=Fran Carango]
No wonder that both Donny and Don were initially vying for pole position to get his SD7 once he has been able to take delivery of the SD60.


stop John...In no way was I ever interested in another
SD7 after owning two of them in the past, Dave's,
or anyone elses for that matter.
It is a very nice arranger KB but just not for my needs.

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#495481 - 04/24/20 08:23 AM Re: Throw back [Re: john smies]
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Originally Posted By john smies
First of all as regards Dave's Ketron SD7 recordings: in as far as they are recorded directly from the line out of the SD7 they sound anything but lackluster


John,
I was the one to admit that the older sequences and tracks were created to sound good on older units, with EQ and balance based on the speakers in those units. Fran was echoing something I said, not slamming me. The performance I did with the sequences were recorded with the Shure MV88 mic on my iPhoneX, not direct. I've had a lot of time to fiddle with options, and come May - I will be broadcasting in the best way I am able, with what I own at the moment. I've harnessed most of the gremlins that have plagued my process thus far, and I'm excited to move on.
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#495484 - 04/24/20 08:34 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango

And my testing 1,2,3.....is showing me a lot about SZ grin


Do you mind sharing with us exactly what that is, Fran? I, for one, can't figure it out ...

BTW, with all this discussion about what sounds good or not, I've said for years that the beauty of any sound is in the ear of the beholder ... no two people hear sound the same ...
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#495488 - 04/24/20 08:57 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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[/quote]

John did you get out of the wrong side of bed?

First the tracks that were in discussion are older MP3 tracks of other gear.

If you recall I told you to go for the SD7 via our email. I am a firm supporter of Ketron.

My example of the MS is not to showcase the track seq.. but to show the pristine sound quality.. (apparently many folks here can't hear :))
[/quote]


Hi Fran,

In a way I did I guess. I may have misunderstood the context of your mail here, if so I apologise. As Tony so rightly says Sound is in the ear of the beholder...
I thought it was kind of funny to realize that the four "D" s,
(Donny, Don, Dave and Deane) are either playing a Ketron or were having second thoughs about having one again. Apparently this is not true for Donny as he just stated so I stand corrected. ( although the Lord knows what else he could try again once he has flogged the T4). And Don stated he had made an offer to Dave, that leads/led me to assume he is again interested....I just thought that kind of funny really, nothing more nothing less.
And by the by, I know Fran you shared with me your thoughts on the Ketrons and they were predominantly positive.

P.S.
seems my creative flow over the last few months has come to an abrupt end due to an incident with massive mike feedback, so there won't be any new songs or videos in the near future....alas....

regards
John

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#495489 - 04/24/20 09:00 AM Re: Throw back [Re: tony mads usa]
cgiles Offline
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
...the beauty of any sound is in the ear of the beholder ... no two people hear sound the same ...
Yeah Tony, the accordion proves that..... smile , just kidding, don't want the masked avenger to rise up and go on a killing spree smile.

chas
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#495490 - 04/24/20 09:06 AM Re: Throw back [Re: john smies]
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John,.. I have owned and performed with All Ketron units including the Midjay, since the X1 except for the Audya for some unknown reason.
No offer has ever been made to Dave for his SD7.
I hope you get the feedback? issue sorted and start
recording again as soon as possible.
Try not to assume too much of what is said on SZ..
Good luck with your music..

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#495492 - 04/24/20 09:08 AM Re: Throw back [Re: cgiles]
tony mads usa Offline
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You may be just kidding chas, but you prove my point ... as there are obviously many people who really like the sound of an accordion ...
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#495496 - 04/24/20 09:43 AM Re: Throw back [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
You may be just kidding chas, but you prove my point ... as there are obviously many people who really like the sound of an accordion ...


Yeah, and there are also a few guys that like kale.....but none that will admit it in front of their buddies smile.

chas
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#495497 - 04/24/20 10:01 AM Re: Throw back [Re: cgiles]
tony mads usa Offline
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lol ... KALE ?!? ... some guy had an acre of weeds and told people it was healthy and they bought it ... I'm not one of them ... confused2
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#495498 - 04/24/20 10:02 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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I'm certainly not interested in another SD7, since I tried it twice, plus the SD40, and found that although they are certainly great arrangers, they don't suit my needs as well as others do.
The EA7 is doing just fine right now.
Perhaps after the virus has abated I would look at something new if it comes out, maybe Korg or, less likely Roland, but no hurry to make any changes at this time. I'm not even playing what I have much.
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#495501 - 04/24/20 10:14 AM Re: Throw back [Re: john smies]
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Originally Posted By john smies
Don stated he had made an offer to Dave, that leads/led me to assume he is again interested....


Wait - WHAT? I know of no such offer. eek2
Don would have called me directly if he was interested. This KB is too long for his permanent stand setup, and the weight is prohibitive as he approaches mid-life.
laugh2
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#495502 - 04/24/20 10:16 AM Re: Throw back [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles


Yeah, and there are also a few guys that like kale.....


Mark me down as a Kale lover! Veggies are my JAM. (also jam, but that's another subject)
There are no veggies I don't like, and in normal shopping runs - my cart if full of them.
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#495504 - 04/24/20 10:20 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By cgiles


Yeah, and there are also a few guys that like kale.....


Mark me down as a Kale lover! Veggies are my JAM. (also jam, but that's another subject)
There are no veggies I don't like, and in normal shopping runs - my cart if full of them.


"Asparagus & Kale are notorious for making urine smell like sulfur after you eat it. This is because our bodies convert the asparagusic acid it contains into sulfur-containing chemicals. These chemicals leave the body through urine, causing the distinct sulfur smell."


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#495507 - 04/24/20 10:48 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Dnj]
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yeah, but iteally like asparagus ...

And we should 'THROW BACK' this post to its original topic ...
just sayin' ...
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#495511 - 04/24/20 11:06 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By cgiles


Yeah, and there are also a few guys that like kale.....


Mark me down as a Kale lover! Veggies are my JAM. (also jam, but that's another subject)
There are no veggies I don't like, and in normal shopping runs - my cart if full of them.


Gosh Dave, judging by your pictures I wouldn't have picked you for a 'veggie' guy.....unless they were WELL-SEASONED with salt pork smile smile.

chas
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#495513 - 04/24/20 11:10 AM Re: Throw back [Re: cgiles]
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Hey, I resemble that remark !!! ... some of us are just 'full-figured' ...
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#495514 - 04/24/20 11:20 AM Re: Throw back [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By cgiles


Yeah, and there are also a few guys that like kale.....


Mark me down as a Kale lover! Veggies are my JAM. (also jam, but that's another subject)
There are no veggies I don't like, and in normal shopping runs - my cart if full of them.


Gosh Dave, judging by your pictures I wouldn't have picked you for a 'veggie' guy.....unless they were WELL-SEASONED with salt pork smile smile.

chas


OUCH!! coffee

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#495517 - 04/24/20 11:24 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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Hee, Hee .... fat guys eat good stuff too!
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#495522 - 04/24/20 12:29 PM Re: Throw back [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Hee, Hee .... fat guys eat good stuff too!



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#495524 - 04/24/20 12:51 PM Re: Throw back [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Hee, Hee .... fat guys eat good stuff too!


See Donny, some people can take a little ribbing without going ballistic.

chas
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#495545 - 04/25/20 06:07 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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... did someone mentions ribs??????
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#495548 - 04/25/20 06:34 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
... did someone mentions ribs??????


Yes Please...


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#495549 - 04/25/20 07:01 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
... did someone mentions ribs??????


Yes Please...


Well, if you gotta' die anyway.....

smile smile

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#495550 - 04/25/20 07:02 AM Re: Throw back [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
... did someone mentions ribs??????


Yes Please...


Well, if you gotta' die anyway.....

smile smile

chas


Dry or wet is all I need to know ....just sayin..

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#495551 - 04/25/20 07:20 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj

Dry or wet is all I need to know ....just sayin..


either ... no wait, make that BOTH !!!
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#495561 - 04/25/20 10:01 AM Re: Throw back [Re: tony mads usa]
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I Just bought a new BBQ today...
those Red Kamado Joe units at Lowes look awesome wow..

https://www.kamadojoe.com/collections/grills


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#495564 - 04/25/20 10:15 AM Re: Throw back [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
I Just bought a new BBQ today...
those Red Kamado Joe units at Lowes look awesome wow..

https://www.kamadojoe.com/collections/grills



I went to Aldi's and got one for a Quarter. (.25 cents.)




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#495574 - 04/25/20 01:26 PM Re: Throw back [Re: Jerryghr]
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Originally Posted By Jerryghr
Originally Posted By Dnj
I Just bought a new BBQ today...
those Red Kamado Joe units at Lowes look awesome wow..

https://www.kamadojoe.com/collections/grills



I went to Aldi's and got one for a Quarter. (.25 cents.)


... and you can move it around to stay 6 feet away from your 4 guests ...

PS I'll keep my Weber ...

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#495577 - 04/25/20 01:58 PM Re: Throw back [Re: tony mads usa]
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I never said I bought a
Kamado Joe they are definitely for the professional BBQ man I love my Weber grill too that's what I bought.
Brats on in a few minutes..


Edited by Dnj (04/25/20 02:00 PM)

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#495578 - 04/25/20 02:14 PM Re: Throw back [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
I Just bought a new BBQ today...
those Red Kamado Joe units at Lowes look awesome wow


Those two statements might lead one to believe ...

BRATS !!! I knew I forgot to order something ...
BTW ... someone said ribs ... they are on tonight !
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#495579 - 04/25/20 02:23 PM Re: Throw back [Re: Fran Carango]
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There's gonna' be a lot of broken scales by the time this virus thing is over. Try putting a tape measure around that gut once a week and oh yeah, check your full-length mirror when you step out of the shower. But hey, maybe by the time 'The Greatest Loser' airs again, you'll be able to qualify smile smile. Better join Uncle Dave and hit those veggies....just leave off his cheddar cheese sauce smile smile.

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#495580 - 04/25/20 02:34 PM Re: Throw back [Re: cgiles]
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rotf2 rotf2

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#495581 - 04/25/20 04:12 PM Re: Throw back [Re: Dnj]
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... anyone in particular that was addressed to, chas, or was that the plural 'you' ?
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#495583 - 04/25/20 04:30 PM Re: Throw back [Re: tony mads usa]
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I guess the lockdown effects people in many different ways,
some go food crazy.

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