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#498412 - 06/09/20 10:35 PM Re: RIP George Floyd ... I can't breathe [Re: cgiles]
Nigel Offline
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Originally Posted By cgiles

You don't need to feel uncomfortable for being a decent, empathetic, and AWARE human being.


I know chas but I think everyone should feel uncomfortable about this. If we all did then this wouldn't happen. But we obviously aren't there yet.

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#499303 - 06/23/20 11:02 AM Re: RIP George Floyd ... I can't breathe [Re: Nigel]
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ANALYSIS/OPINION:

I know of no white person alive today in the United States who has ever legally owned a black slave, or any slave for that matter. Almost 700,000 mostly white men died 160 years ago to end slavery. Jim Crow ended generations ago. Yet black America, for the most part, is still locked in inner-city gang violence and economic hardship. Why?

Is it because America is racist? Is it because of some overhanging white supremacy? Is it because of the Illuminati?

No, unfortunately, it is because of black culture and the adoption of Democratic Party government dependency.

We have just had eight years of the first black president. Black athletes, and entertainers, routinely earn multi-million dollar incomes. I can easily name several black billionaires without even trying too hard. A large percentage of black America is very successful. But, it is not enough. Too many black youth are being left behind.

And it is no one but black America’s fault.

No one can solve this problem but black America. No one can throw enough money at it. We’ve tried that. Black America needs to look in the mirror and stop blaming others, especially white people.

I am obviously white and conservative, and I served in the military, which, during my time, was as color blind as you could be. I can also honestly say I don’t give a damn what color your skin is, neither do any of my friends. I do care about your actions.

Blacks are around 15 percent of the population. Depending on what study you look at, they commit around 40 percent to 50 percent of violent crime in America. Of course, there is going to be a problem with police. And, of course, there are some bad policemen. However, those bad apples do not kill black people statistically anymore than they kill white people. Even Harvard said that recently. If you were a cop, and you had to work in a neighborhood infested with crime and murder, wouldn’t you act differently than in a neighborhood where there was little crime? The most effective thing black America could do to improve its relationship with police is to significantly reduce violent crime where they live. Yes, that means change the culture of where you live and your community.

I for one am tired of being blamed. I am tired of dealing with people who only want something from others I don’t oppress anyone. I don’t hold anyone down. I’m tired of getting on the D.C. metro and seeing white people being harassed by roaming gangs of black youth with their pants around their knees. Yes, you want a white person uncomfortable? That makes me uncomfortable. It’s our nation’s capital and it’s embarrassing.

Blacks have nothing but opportunity in America. Try finding the same opportunity anywhere else in the world. If you are born in America you’ve won life’s economic lottery. Take advantage of it.

The problem is this generation has been taught an agenda of cultural Marxism by our education system. They’ve been taught to be a victim, and it’s still going on. All you have to do is watch the young black, female student at Yale screaming at the college president to understand that. Blacks in America don’t even know how good they got it.

Don’t kneel when my anthem is played. Too many people died for that flag. You are free to protest but not then. I am free to not watch, or pay to watch you play if you do that. The NFL should make it a rule that you stand for the national anthem. There is no free speech to disobey a private employer on private property. This would solve the problem immediately.

The NFL has deeply offended most of America. They will pay an economic and reputational price, as they should.

We have a real cultural problem in this country, the result of the Leftist multicultural agenda. Multi-ethnicity is perfect and should be encouraged.. Having more than one American culture is destroying the country. But then again, that is what the Left wants.

Do Black Lives Matter?

It is your job to determine if this is a racist rant or just a review of factual data...

WHAT IF ALL THE BLACKS SUDDENLY LEFT AMERICA, WHICH IS 13.3% OF THE TOTAL U.S.POPULATION:


Amount of people in poverty would drop - 34%,
The prison population would go down by -37%,
Welfare recipients would go down by - - - 42%,
Gang members would go down by - - - - - 53%
Chlamydia cases would go down - - - - - - 54%,
Homelessness would go down - - - - - - - -57%
Syphilis would go down - - - - - - - - - - - - 58%.
AIDS & HIV would go down by - - - - - - - -65%,
Gonorrhea would go down - - - - - - - - - - -69%,
Average ACT scores would go UP - - - - - 5.5 points.
Average IQ would go UP - - - - - - - - - - - -7.4 points, putting us 3rd in the world tied with Japan,
Average SAT scores would go UP almost - - - - -100 points,
The average income for Americans would go UP over $20,000 a year,

BUT DEMOCRATS WOULD LOSE 76% OF THEIR VOTING BASE!!!

And, many criminal defense attorneys would have to find another line of work!



Yes, Black lives do matter. But I submit to you “ALL LIVES MATTER“
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#499309 - 06/23/20 11:49 AM Re: RIP George Floyd ... I can't breathe [Re: salsaman]
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
Originally Posted By salsaman


It is your job to determine if this is a racist rant or just a review of factual data...



I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's a racist rant.

chas
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#499310 - 06/23/20 11:54 AM Re: RIP George Floyd ... I can't breathe [Re: cgiles]
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Everyone here has a right to his/her opinion, but DAMN!

Russ

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#499321 - 06/23/20 02:12 PM Re: RIP George Floyd ... I can't breathe [Re: Nigel]
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All of those rants are easy to counter, but why bother.
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#499337 - 06/23/20 04:56 PM Re: RIP George Floyd ... I can't breathe [Re: Nigel]
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Edited by Taike (06/23/20 04:59 PM)
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#499356 - 06/24/20 03:04 AM Re: RIP George Floyd ... I can't breathe [Re: salsaman]
Nigel Offline
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Registered: 06/01/98
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Loc: Ventura CA USA
salsaman I find your posting so unbelievably offensive I am banning you from this forum. You are a racist and are not welcome here.

If there is anyone else here who supports this viewpoint let me know now so I can take care of it.

This is a private forum and I don't guarantee everyone having a right to express an opinion when it is this hateful and offensive. I won't tolerate it. I simply don't want people like that here and don't have to.

We have African-Americans on this forum who also served in the military to protect us all. How do you think they feel about what you said? I feel sick about it but I know they must feel much worse than I can possibly imagine.


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#499432 - 06/25/20 10:26 AM Re: RIP George Floyd ... I can't breathe [Re: Nigel]
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
Thanks, Nigel. Like Chas and I are, you and I are pretty much joined at the hip in many idealistic ways.

Russ

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#499451 - 06/25/20 05:21 PM Re: RIP George Floyd ... I can't breathe [Re: Nigel]
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
It's always sad to see someone's true character exposed and it turns out not to be what you expected it to be. Is it just wishful thinking to assume that most people are basically 'good'? I certainly hope not but the events on this forum in the last few days certainly has me scratching my head. For the fifteen years that I have been here, the members of this forum have unanimously praised Nigel for administering and maintaining what most considered the best forum of it's type on the 'net. Then, following the lead of one 'respected' (depending on who you talk to) long-time member, a group of elderly, conservative, Trump followers suddenly decided that they too could no longer abide by what was 'going on' in the BAR. THE BAR!!!, which was specifically set up to provide a safe place to discuss 'WHATEVER' as long as it followed well spelled-out rules. In the current situation, NONE of these rules were violated. The obvious and reasonable response would be to simply NOT VISIT THE BAR, a separate open forum unrelated to ANY of the other MUSIC forums. Ahhh, Judas Escariot lives! Now suddenly Nigel is the worst person ever, almost as bad as chas smile. One of the defectors even thinks (his) God is being ridiculed. I suppose that's a reference to my Nietzsche quote but again, First Amendment, Freedom of Religion, etc., etc. Anyhow, it's interesting to see so many old men so eager to be on the wrong side of history. Biden may not be the best possible candidate but, like old age, it sure beats the alternative.

chas
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#499462 - 06/25/20 08:00 PM Re: RIP George Floyd ... I can't breathe [Re: cgiles]
Nigel Offline
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Registered: 06/01/98
Posts: 6483
Loc: Ventura CA USA
If people have suddenly announced they are leaving due to my hardline treatment of racism on the forum then that is how it needs to be. I can handle political differences more sensitively but racism not at all. I don't care how I am perceived. I just attempt to be a kind human and care for my fellow humans.


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