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#500638 - 09/12/20 01:40 PM Headphones/Mic All In One
lahawk Offline
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So I was looking around for a setup that would allow a hookup, where I could connect to the mic in, and the headphone jack out with an "all in one" headset/mic.

I have found the Yamaha CM500 Headset Mic on Amazon that has two 1/8" cable jacks, and i assume one cable connects to mic in and the other to the headphones out. Not sure if this will work on the SX900, or any other keyboard for that matter. Anyone use this particular headset, or have a similar set up with a recommendation?

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#500642 - 09/13/20 12:13 AM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: lahawk]
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Larry, not a great idea --- one breaks down, the other is useless. The S900 has ¼ “ jacks imputes. My thought; buy one good mic first.

John C.

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#500647 - 09/13/20 09:10 AM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: lahawk]
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Good point John. Just looking for a headset that will do both, eliminating a boom mic stand.
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#500649 - 09/13/20 12:06 PM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: lahawk]
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Looking for the same. Any suggestions?

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#500650 - 09/13/20 12:31 PM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: lahawk]
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If it’s for recording, that mic is seriously sub-par. If it’s for playing live, why do you want closed back headphones?

And headset mics need either a VERY good compressor, or very good vocal technique, as you can’t ’work’ the mic, move in and out as you get louder and quieter depending on range.
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#500651 - 09/13/20 12:52 PM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: Diki]
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Good points. I was just checking options, and have come to the conclusion, this particular Yamaha setup may not be ideal. But I do know there are performers who use a headset (one earpiece, slim mic) for performing live.
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#500652 - 09/13/20 02:13 PM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: lahawk]
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Larry, FOR ME, I need to move to and from the mic for expression.

Sometimes there is a high note, and have to give it more. And sometimes I need to get sexy, not too often (Smile) low volume.

Enjoy it all Larry, John C.

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#500653 - 09/13/20 05:52 PM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: bruno123]
lahawk Offline
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Originally Posted By bruno123
Larry, FOR ME, I need to move to and from the mic for expression.

Sometimes there is a high note, and have to give it more. And sometimes I need to get sexy, not too often (Smile) low volume.

Enjoy it all Larry, John C.


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#500659 - 09/14/20 10:00 AM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: lahawk]
GlennT Offline
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Any suggestions on specific headset mics?

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#500660 - 09/14/20 11:15 AM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: GlennT]
bruno123 Offline
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Glenn, Gary used a headset mic, he raved about it. I'm sure he has all the info you are looking for.

John C.

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#500663 - 09/14/20 05:07 PM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: lahawk]
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Don’t forget, need to cough? Need to converse with a patron off the mic?

Not so easy with a headphone mic... 😎
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#500707 - 09/18/20 07:37 AM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: lahawk]
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I had that same Yamaha headset mic. It's designed for computer connection, but includes a separate battery/preamp box that you need to use to convert to a normal 1/8" or 1/4" output. I used it a couple times for a jam/rehearsal (with one side off-the-ear so i could still hear) and found that the mic wasn't very good. Tossed it in the trash when the foam earpieces started to disintegrate.

OK, that being said - i'd kicked around the idea of trying a headset mic again, based on the experience of Gary and others on this board. Picked up a (relatively) inexpensive Shure PGA31 condenser mic, figuring i wouldn't be out much if it didn't work out. Note that headset mics in general are designed for connection to a wireless transmitter, so you need a preamp/adapter dongle (which costs a bit) - Shure sells one but i'm having good results with the cheaper YPA A65P. And you will need phantom power, so i'm not sure if your keyboard supplies that.

Bottom line - for me, the advantages of going with the headset mic far outweigh the disadvantages. I love not being stuck in one position behind the keyboard - i don't have anything between me and the keyboard, i'm free to turn toward whoever i'm singing to, and can even stand up when i play a song on flute (the headset mic picks that up just fine). And not having to deal with a mic stand is one less thing to worry about forgetting to pack.

Oh, and that PGA31 condenser mic has way exceeded my expectations, no problem with the sound at all.

Just my own experience,
- Jimbo


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#500708 - 09/18/20 09:26 AM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: JimboKeys]
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OK, Jimbo has a lot of good thoughts, I have one question. I am used to move towards the mic, and away, depending.
Are you going to use voice control for the high and low notes? (volume) When you get close for sensitive parts, the mic does get deeper, fuller.

I am open for your thoughts, John C.

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#500736 - 09/20/20 01:21 PM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: lahawk]
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Hey John -
Thanks for the reply. That's one of the trade-offs i had to make with a headset mic, not to be able to lean into the mic to bring out those low notes that i struggle with. I've toyed with the idea of using a footswitch or MIDI control to boost the mic at those times, but for now i'm just doing without and not worrying about it.

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#500739 - 09/21/20 09:18 AM Re: Headphones/Mic All In One [Re: lahawk]
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For me, it's more of a timbre thing rather than just volume. Volume I can control to a certain extent with some kind of compression on the mic (I love the input section on those TC things) but leaning in made the voice warmer, bassier, sexier! Moving out made it harder, thinner, more cutting...

Working the mic has its musical uses as well as damage control aspects!

Jimbo, if you aren't already using a vocal compressor, try one of those cheap Mic Mechanic footpedals or a TC Perform-VK etc.. They do an awesome job of evening out your dynamics.
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