Hi all,
Just received my 2 brand new Bose L1 Pro16 from Frank at Audioworks.
He came through again with great price and fast shipping.
Thank you Frank
I have been saving up money for a while to get a bigger system than my Bose L1 Compact for bigger venues.
Originally I was going to get the Maui 28G2 from Frank.
I had a the chance to audition all Line array systems while on a trip to Europe, including JBL, Bose, LD Systems Maui etc ...
The Maui impressed me the most at the time, including size weight factor.
I am a big Bose fan and have quite a few Bose speakers ...
Secretly I was hoping for Bose to update their line to compete with JBL and Maui.
Boy they sure did.
These speakers are Monsters.
What a sound.
So clear. Much better than their old speakers.
And they weigh less than the Maui.
Yes, they are pricey, but worth it for me.
I can here things in my voice and my Keyboard that I did not hear before. Wow.
The sub is unbelievably powerful. The dispersion amazing due to the angle of the speakers.
I did not need them right now due to COVID, but I sure enjoy the sound in my studio until things hopefully open up again.
These speakers will last me until I retire from music
They are exactly what I have been waiting for... Yay ...:D
I see on the Bose forum that people are buying them and are very happy with it.

https://pro.bose.com/en_us/solutions/por...mp;gclsrc=aw.ds

Eric

Fantastic! I hope you get to use them in public in 2021!

I’d love to hear more about these.,Maybe you could make a video and play your keyboards through your new speakers. Enjoy!

Thank you, I hope so too
A video wouldn't do the speakers justice as you would listen to them through your system.
I listened to some online demos, but boy, life is a whole different matter.
I have to turn the base in my studio almost all the way down LOL.
Somebody on the Bose Forum compared them to the L1 Model S1 which are rated for up to 300 people.
He said the Pro16 are more powerful with more clarity.
2 of those could probably entertain 400-500 people.
We'll see what happens next year. Fingers crossed.

Thanks, Eric,

It's always a pleasure doing business with you.

Likewise

Looks like a fantastic system, good luck. How about portability with weight and pieces.? I've been very happy with my JBL Eon 1's but these are defiantly a step up. Love to see and hear them in action

The two extensions are pretty light weight.
A carrying bag is included that has room for cables.
The sub even though on the heavy site is a lot lighter than I thought and somewhat easy to carry.
For the sub I had to order a slip cover.
They also offer a bag with wheels.
My Studio is upstairs and I had no trouble getting it up the stairs.
The system is rated medium to large venues.
I have no doubt that this true. Especially with 2.
Eric

I’m always a bit skeptical about claims of the number of people a system will cover…

Are you playing in a large restaurant, where you are background noise, are you playing for a corporate meet and greet and are background, are you playing for an elderly audience, perhaps a wedding where most of the parents are complaining about the DJ’s volume?

Or are you in a noisy night club, competing against a massively over powered DJ on the breaks?!

You really have to ask these questions, and you will never get the right answer! SPL at a specific THD is about your only way to compare accurately, and nowadays manufacturers rarely release those figures, probably because they would be compared so unfavorably with older equipment LOL

You are correct Diki
Here is a review from the Bose Forum from your neck of the woods


Pro16 Review (if any questions, put em in the comments)-- Used the Pro16 for my regular Wednesday afternoon gig today (Bamboo Beach Bar in Madeira Beach, FL). Until now I used a Classic with two B1, with the bass line out to a PackLite that powers a B2. Being an outside gig, having that extra bass really makes a huge difference and allows more volume. Well, let me tell you, the Pro16 was TREMENDOUS, especially regarding my #1 fear of feedback when I get close to the array. As per volume, I couldn't turn it up but MAYBE halfway for the most part, and could be even less. The dispersion was incredible too. Let me add that I use tracks so I really put it to the test as per the low end.
One great thing with the speaker array mounted in the sub, is the same amount of bass and treble on either side of the room, (instead of being a bit bass heavy on the side where the B1 or B2 is placed.)
I was going to use the T1 and output it to the Pro16, as that's what I'm used to, but at last minute decided to use the Pro16 inputs and the L1 Mix app. The bluetooth stayed connected to both phones (1 for tracks, and 1 for L1 Mix app) for the whole 4 hr gig. I have a couple wishes for the L1 Mix app - a TUNER, and an easier way increase/decrease volume in small amounts. The software knobs are tough to turn up or down in very small increments. With backing tracks, this is a critical part, as the RMS of some tracks will slightly differ from others.
As per sound- The bass was HUGE. Although only 16 speakers, the array threw the high end out far and wide. I would need two of my Model 2 B2 to match this thing. It was incredible.. Load in / Setup and Tear down / load out were both under 15 minutes (I have two wireless systems and two guitars to pack up.) In a nutshell, Who wants to buy my Classics? LOL
I just wish I could have turned it up full blast, but it's just too powerful LOL

How does one L1Pro16 sound with the stereo piano samples?

I haven't fully tested it yet, since I use two. My initial test was favorable. It sounds like each speaker has a fuller range.
I never really liked playing mp3s through one L1 Compact during breaks. Something was missing in the sound.
My new L1 Pro16 sounds amazing and full.
Eric

Keep us posted on your progress with the L1PRO16!!

Thanks
Sure will.
I am still in my honeymoon phase LOL.
Just blown away by the sound compared to the Compact.
So much though, that I will sell the compacts once things opening up in my neck of the woods.
If I needs a lighter set up I can take just one or maybe get 2 of the L1 Pro8 ...
We'll see. We still got some ways to go before we get back to some more life music.
Can't wait.
My plan is to be offering some benefits concerts.
My only condition is that it has to be personal.
The money needs to go to someone in our community that has been hit hard.
Not some corporation fund where the money will get lost. ...
Time will tell
Meanwhile I am having lots of fun playing through the Pro16
Eric

Just saw this on the Bose forum.
Great Idea:

Welcome to the forum! Thank you for your post.

You can use input 1 for the left channel and input 2 for the right, but make sure both L1 channels have the same EQ and volume settings to maintain the balance.

Alternatively, you can connect from your keyboard's headphones output (or its dedicated mono output, if it has one) with a single cable.

Hope this helps!

I called Frank… He is given great deals to forum members on the new Bose. I had a Bose S1pro and it worked well with the stereo piano samples. I took the left & right quarter inch out of the Genos into the 3.5mm of the S1pro… I could do the same thing on the L1Pro16. Plus, I was thinking of getting the Bose T4S mixer and use the tone match cable for power and audio. Then I can sit the mixer on the Genos and have a way to sum the stereo into mono through the mixer.

As for portable line arrays, I went from a JBL EON ONE to a RCF JMIX8 to maybe the. Bose L1Pro16.

Quick question... is the plastic extention wobbly when it’s plugged into the base unit? From the online reviews, it looks like the spacer is made of plastic and the speaker is made of a metal. I just saw one video where the plastic spacer has a lot of movement… Just wondering if it is an issue.

The spacer is plastic.
The extension with speakers has a metal grill with plastic to the back.
They fit pretty tight together.
There is some movement of course if you move it back and forth.
Same with all line arrays.
I don't thing it is an issue.
In regards to the piano: I think I will try the suggestion mentioned above, which seems like a perfect solution:
Use input 1 for the left channel and input 2 for the right from your keyboard, but make sure both L1 channels have the same EQ and volume settings to maintain the balance.
Good luck with whatever you decide
Eric

Sorry for hijacking: What did you think of the Bose S1 pro in terms of output? Did it get reasonably loud without sounding stressed?

You’d think that, with multiple speakers going up the array, it might be possible to use them angled slightly and direct left channel signals slightly one way and right channel signals the other way...

That way at least there would be a degree of separation between the two without the usually bad cancellation between signals when mixed electronically to mono.

Of course, all centrally panned stuff would sound exactly the same it does now, but it might be nice to have left AND right amps in the one bass unit and just the one stick give at least a better spread for stereo sounds and effects...

Does anyone know of an array system that already does this?

The Bose S1pro was good... it was very convenient to use because the battery… It worked excellent as a Bluetooth amplifier for your iPhone or iPad… It got deep for program information… For what are used it for it didn’t give me as much as I wanted but I think I was asking too much from it. As a back up speaker or a small floor wedge, it did well.

To me… Stereo is always better for my ears because most of these keyboards have samples that were recorded in stereo. I just played a gig where I used two RCF HD10A speakers in stereo and the pianos sounded fantastic on the Genos. When I was practicing at home… I used my RCF JMIX8... Vocals and guitar sounds sounded great through it… The piano was OK but they were still some phasing issues going on. When I set up for the gig, I said I bring speakers just so I can hear the way I want to hear it and then I plugged into their house system (speakers in the ceiling) through a single auxiliary send. It sounded good where I was sitting… And that’s a good thing because it makes the performance go a little bit better.

If I ever get to demo a Bose L1 Pro16, I will try several different ways to see what it does to the sound… Especially the piano sounds when a single column combines the stereo signal. I was thinking that I could do a Bose T4S and use channels 5/6 1/4” from the Genos and see how it sounds through the tonematch cable.