Lets get this topic going about the reasons you like your Technics keyboard better then any others you have used or owned.
In 20 years of Keyboards, 20 more years of Organs and accordians, and 35 years of Pianos, I have concluded in my limited experience that Technics is the best hands down I have owned 4 Technics and I'm leaning into the fifth one, SOON, hopefully.
What say you my peers and friends?
No fights or arguments please and thanks
Bebop

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BEBOP
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In 50 years of accordian,40 years of organ, and 20 years of keyboards, I have never seen an instrument as good as my 7000. I said the same of my 5000.My top end Clavinova is good as a home instrument for my wife,but the OS is cumbersome.
If you want to set up as a recording studio.All the tools are there.

You have a virtual organ, or should I say several organs from B3 to theater to mighty pipes. And with pedals, registrations for them if desired.Saying nothing of many accordians of stunning realism.

With the excellent sound system w/sub woofer,you can go to any small to medium job without all of the baggage and setup. The SD card with Favorites,medley ,sound or audio play lets you store your songs in any order. This includes Technics,midi,or even full wave performances.
For singing, the onboard system is almost as good as my harmonizer.
All of these advantages I have found in three months, and I haven't begun to really know it.

The tools and voices and parameters goes on and on.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BEBOP:
[B]Lets get this topic going about the reasons you like your Technics keyboard better then any others you have used or owned.

I have researched all the top keyboards with one main desire---To sound as close to a real big band as I can get. Jazz, latin, 30's, 40's, 50's, my KN7000 does it, and it does it very well. John C.

I did a gig on Tuesday night, in a hall that was about half the size of a tennis court. The KN7000, without any external amplification, did the job admirably. Several people remarked on the realistic sounds and one person actually commented that he found the music a bit loud. I asked where he was sitting and he replied about half way up the room!!

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Willum

I totally agree with that, and each time after thorough compare and related on my musical needs (and financial priorities ). But I wonder if the answer on this question in a Technics-forum seems a little biased and the answer looks a little bit predictable, don't you think?
Maybe someone should asked this in the Yamaha or X forum .
Otherwise, there are many members who can compare and arguments 'pro and contra' sharpens the discussion and helps to be critical consumers, so go on react on Bob's proposition, please.
Cees

Well, it is obvious people in this Technics forum prefers Technics keyboards. Perhaps, for neutral persons as I am, it will be a great help to know the reasons you like your Technics keyboard better than Yamaha or others. Bepop said something about a better OS in Technics keyboards. Anything more? What about sounds (piano voice..., styles, solid making of keyboard, etc?

Hi,
over the last 15 years or so, I've had Technics, Korg , Yamaha & Roland Arranger Keyboards. My favourite is definitely the Technics as I find them easier and more intuitive to use. In the KN7 you've got a complete package. Good sequencer, great style creation features, sound editing etc.
and for me best of all audio & the sd card.

To me the types of styles are also fairly important. I like the kn styles, but they may not suit everyone. I find my 9000pro and VA7 slightly more suited to ballad & pop type styles whereas I prefer the Latin and (old time) dance & bigband music on my KN7.
It really boils down to the individual in the end and what pleases them.
Check out the keyboards thoroughly before you make your desicion.

best wishes
Rikki

I agree with Rikki's conclusions---the positive statements about Technics, but maybe not the board for everyone. I've had about six Technics (losing count) and passed on the 7000 to remain with the 6500 for now. Instead, I wanted a different direction in styles, etc., so I recently added the Yamaha 2k, while waiting for the 2100 to show. The reason---I use these boards strictly in a multitrack recording environment, not live performance. So, "styles" are my primary concern, rather than SD cards and other technological gizmos. Yes, Technics corners the market in jazz, latin, big band, etc. And I love it. But what about country and pop? Upon hearing those Yamaha styles, I was stunned. They've nailed some of the Nashville sounds (guitar strums, licks, fills) that sound much like authentic session players. The styles are closer to what I've been looking for in replicating a real combo sound. In this area, Technics styles are too affected and too busy. Maybe, as others, I'm anxious to see what will show on the new 2600. Will it be more of the same in styles/sounds, or will Technics step out and offer something decidedly different from the past?

Cees, I don't see a point in asking about Technics in a different keyboard forum. My thinking is that if they are in a different keyboard forum they have probably never had a technics or they would be here with us.
I have had had all these keyboard and sound modules and samplers and I have to conclude that Technics is the way to go for most people. I currently have 9 other keyboards in my recording studio and two samplers but seldom use them except in a particular nitch where they might be required
GO TECHNICS!
Bebop

It is my considered opinion that most folks would sooner admit to marrying the wrong person than say that they bought the wrong keyboard (or car for that matter!!)

I can't wait to see the replies to this!!!

Joan

Mike,
In some cases I'm afraid that you might be right. I think that I might know some people like that.
Anyway, thanks for the laugh of the day.
Still chuckling,
Walt

I traded in my 7000 for a Tyros. 'nuff said!!! Walter.

Hi Walter (McLaren),
as Mike said in his reply above:
" It is my considered opinion that most folks would sooner admit they bought the wrong keyboard than say they married the wrong person (or car for that matter!!)"

Cees.

I've been a 'Dyed in the Wool' Technics fan since the KN800 having had all the top of the range models except KN6500. However, I have heard some very good reports about the Tyros so am seriously considering buying one to add to my present KN7000. The only negative thing I've heard so far is that the User Manual sux - so What's New

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Willum

After many years of Technics keyboards, Kn1000 to Kn6500, I thought it would be a good idea to make a change--Maybe out of bordom. The Yamaha tyros keyboard was the only one that caught my interest. I listen to all the downtloads. I went to a local dealer six times. He put me in a room by myself, set up the keyboard, with amp, and I played and played.

I knew my dancers would like this keyboard, the rhythm was so strong, so out front. (Bass and Drums) I made a decision to purchase it. Two days latter I cancelled the order. Insight? I don't know.

The KN7000s were now available so I purchased one. Technics has never disappointed in the past, so I went for it.

My first thought was it's beautiful, but it's lacking the drive and fullness of the Tyros. I loved everything else about the keyboard. It looked richer, felt much better, and I like the light. Hee Hee

After one month of trying to get a fuller sound on the Latins, Big Band, and the shuffels, I almost gave up, I had my doubts.

One evening I said to my wife,(my best pal)"This Kn7000 keyboard is a tool that was made to create, so I decided that I was going to find a way to create the strong feel that I needed. I do not give up easily.

The KN7000 came through. After working with the user drum edit and the sound edit, I got more than I needed. The basses and drums were now out front, and the Tyros no longer compared. This keyboard is awsome----But you must learn how to use it, it is a tool.
I love it, John C.
In my humble opinion!!!

The only reason I didn't buy a kn7000 in the first place and bought the Yamaha 9K was because of two things. I could not get a hard drive and software to work in my KN6000. I could not use a SCSI CDR with it and there was not any hope in the future at that time. I bought the Yam and then the KN7 came out and I read nothing but problems on this forum. This confirmed my super intelligent decision to buy the Yam top of the line rather then the KN7.
Well..........I don't have the problem of not admitting my mistakes. After all I have been married 7 times, twice to one women, (a compounded mistake), so I am here to tell you that yup yup yup I made a big mistake. The Yam will not replace a KN7 but it will compliment it so I will keep it. I will now buy the KN7 because the sd card has resolved my problem with it and I have learned that most everyone's problems with the K7 was because they did not yet have Alec's extended manual to learn how to use it.
I am now ready to purchase my 5th Technics Keyboard, the KN7000.
I know many of you are wondering so I will save you the embaresment of asking. Jann and I have been married 28 years this year. She is my pride and joy right up there along with the Technics keyboards
Best to all
Bebop

Bebop,
First, congratulations on your and Jann's 28th year.
The reason that I like the Technics Kn7000 is that it starts out, as received, to be a fine instrument with many useful generic factory styles. Then, the kicker is that it is tremendously versatile because it is almost fully programable and can be adapted to any style of music and any personal method of playing. Along with complete sound edit, a much better than average built in sound system, and a complete and easy to use sequencer, what more could one ask?
Of course, with such versatility, it means an instrument with tons of buttons and controls, and a steep learning curve. As they say, "No gain without pain", but in the end, very worthwhile. And with the support of the members of this forum, how could you go wrong?
Regards,
Walt

HI BILL,
I go back one keyboard before the KN800 even to the PR 90 and I thought I needed a change too. Well, I made the change a year ago and it was for me a big mistake. I got what I wanted at the time but the next keyboard out of technics has what I wanted in the first place and couldn't get in the KN6. So, I bought the Yamaha 9K. It is a good keyboard but now the K7 has it all so back to Technics. OF course you already have the KN7 so maybe you ought to get the tyros to go with it. Or maybe you would like to buy my Yam 9K, or a TRADE??
Best to you ORB
Bebop

Hi Bill,
I've been quiet over the past months doing lots of deliberating over my bank balance, as one does but hang it,I've told my son his inheritance is going down and exchanged my Yamaha9000pro for a Tyros and I'm now deliberating over the Manual, which is light reading compared to my bank statements
I met some of the designers at a meeting at Yamaha UK HQ and suggested among other things, that they make the manual as a ring punched file so the pages fold flat and stay flat as we try to make sense of them!
I don't think you will disappointed if you decide to buy a Tyros as a companion to your 7000.
However,I'm a glutton for punishment ( and fickle,fickle with my keyboards as Granpa Doug commented a while back )and I've just exchanged my KN6500 for a Korg pa80 Elite so that's another manual to get my head round (but it is ring bound ) The styles and voices are great (IMO) and it comes with a HD,Vocal/harmony board,Video output board,crossfading dual sequencer and multitasking for the same price as a 7000.
I've sent a few tunes and sounds to Bepop for the e-mail list as a finale to my Kn6500 (not best heard on 7000 )and guess I,ll be saying farewell to you friendly guys on this forum but no doubt hope to see you around on the General forum (when I get my headout of the manuals )
Best wishes,
Derek.

Derek, your not a glutton for punishment. You just like to play. It’s just that some guys like to play with different things. You can’t help it if you like to play with hardware. Enough stuff on that 80 to keep you occupied for at least twelve to sixteen months if you don’t do too much skiing, canoe touring or modeling. Some guys like to play around and accumulate wives. Three, four, five and even seven or eight. Wow! That’s what I would call a glutton for punishment. I still don’t have Ruthie completely figured out. I just might have to take back what I said about being fickle. On second thought I might rephrase it and say you might just have an addiction. Addiction to hardware. l hope the son can some how get you cured before you squander all of his inheritance. On the other hand it might just be a good thing. You know, money corrupts.

Now just a word of advice from old Grandpa. Be careful. Strive to be satisfied and not desire to have everything you might want. Think about it and don’t make hasty decisions. As an example: This guy threw a big birthday party for his wife's fiftieth birthday. During the celebration a genie appeared to the wife. He told the lady he admired her life over the last fifty years. Wonderful wife, raised two wonderful kids and was an inspiration to the whole community. The genie desired to reward her this evening with anything she desired. Well, she said, I have always dreamed about a five or six week vacation in Hawaii. No sooner said and she had an envelope in her hand with hotel reservations, plane tickets and all the spending money she could use. Elated she thanked him and was overwhelmed with her choice. On the way out the genie encountered the husband. Realizing he had something to do with his wife's success he asked the husband if he could do something for him, maybe grant him a desire of his. Sort of hesitant he said, I was thinking at times how exciting it might be to have my wife about thirty years younger than me. How about it? Before he could utter another word, Zip and he was eighty years old.

Me? I looked for a few years, found Ruthie and have been proud of my choice. I looked for a few years, found the KN and have been proud of my choice. Over the years I have evaluated the wisdom of my choices and have found them to have been perfect for me. My desire is for all of you to find rest and peace in your lives.

Grandpa Doug and Ruthie, the gal I hang out with.

I gotta tell ya ... you Technics fans are the most loyal I've ever come across. Maybe that's because you pay so much for the instrument, or because you fel that you get your money's worth .... whatever the reason - I salute your continued enthusiasm. Wish I could get this excited over a keyboard again. In the last 3 years ... they have all let me down big time. They are all "OK" ... but missing one or two key elements that I really need.

I wanted to like the kn7000, and I DID ... in a way, but there was no real mic procesoor onboard. (If you think there is - I guess vocals are not a priority to you)
Vocals are paramount to my show, and I need a good mic preamp more than I need a color TV screen. I think the kn lineup is as goos as any other at this time, but no better. They all have that "one" missing link. Some have several.

Still, I applaud your loyalty, and as always ....... I LOVE reading Doug's posts ! Hope you all stay happy for a long time.

Bill

Did the KN800 take a floppy disk?

The first Technics keyboard I had didn't and I thought it was a KN650 - a friend of mine had one very similar but hers was KN600?. I paid approx £650 for it at the time and when the KN2000 came out upgraded to that. Quite a few thousand pounds later I have the KN7!!!

I have always thought that each model that comes out is that much better than the previous one but whilst I don't think the Rhythm/Styles sections are much of a step up from the KN65 then this is more than compensated by the fantastic sound which was the first thing I noticed when I started playing - Wow! Not to mention the SD feature which even using in its simplest way has opened up more flexibility of filing/loading.

I bought a new car two months ago - don't like it all but you can't have my KN7

Joan

Joan

I have kept my KN800 and it does have a floppy disc drive and still works well when I crank it up.
Bebop

Hi Bebop

Well my 650 must have been before the KN800 and I can't say with any certainty that it had the KN in front of the number 650. I am sure that at the time I bought it there wasn't one on the market that did have a disc drive or I would almost certainly chosen to have gone for one that did. I had a GN7? organ prior to the 650 keyboard which had a "RAM pack" which was about the size of a 20 cigarette carton and were quite expensive to buy.

I was trying to think how long ago that was and my "feeble brain" can't cope with it I'm afraid!

Joan

HI JOAN,
I think I remember that the floppy drive was an option on the KN800. I am sure it was an option on the Pr90 digital piano that came out before the KN800. There was a hard drive of sorts available also but it cost way to much at that time and I did not buy it.
My memory is probably getting a lot like yours :-(
Bebop

Hi Joan, floppy was an option on both 800 and 1000 but was so popular the 1000 then became 1000FD supplied with it.

The 650 was post 800 and had no floppy but a version with floppy, the 750 was them launched that loaded 1000 format files.

The 800 had a syp5 memory card and a similar ram pack was available for the G7 organ. The GN7 was later and a lower version of the GN9 which I don't think was marketed in the UK.

Hi Bebop and Technics player
On the basis of what you have just said I am now sure that I had the 650 and my friend the 600. You were right technics player the organ I had was a G7 and not the GN7 - I remembered it the minute I read what you had written - At the time I bought it I had to pay a hefty price for it as I the one I had to offer in part exchange was a Kimball organ which was a different kettle of fish altogether in sound and style to the Technics. I believe in those days that Music Stores had a franchise to sell a certain make of Organ/keyboards and were'nt really interested if you walked up with another make in part exchange.

In passing I might mention that I met my friend who had the 600 through having the Technics keyboards and I had only just got to know her. The common interest in Technics keyboards has lead to us both upgrading each new model and has led to what has proved to be a lasting friendship I don't know whether this has anything to do with it but she still has the KN6000 - I wonder if its because I have told her that I have left my KN7000 to her in my will

Joan

I Still have a technics Memory card SY-P4 should anyone have need of it. I think it was for the P 90 digital piano. It prolly needs a new battery by now!
Bebop

[QUOTE]Enough stuff on that 80 to keep you occupied for at least twelve to sixteen months if you don’t do too much skiing, canoe touring or modeling.

Hi Granpa Doug,
You hit it on the head. I guess I'm lookig for something I can settle down with but whilst I'm still active at 71 I'm getting into the keyboards for when things catch up on me. ( They might be, as I capsized my Kayak a couple of weeks ago and wondered why the fish were swimming upsidedown !) I've just come back from a Model Engineering show where we won the shield for the best stand in the show. At another engineering show last year we had a late night opening and suddenly I heard big band music in the hall and recognised the sound of a KN7000. Someone had just received his keyboard and couldn't wait to play it so had brought it with him. I also played a few tunes and by the time we had finished we had the biggest crowd round a stand ! So I was able to combine two of my interests. I guess I'll be looking for a keyboard next year able to play at a depth of 10 metres so I can take up scuba diving!Well you never know I might coax out a mermaid or two
I enjoy reading your musings and words of wisdom, good to hear from you again.

All good wishes to you both,
Take care,
Derek

You know Dave, we all have reasons why we do things. Everyone has different needs in their life. These needs temper our reasoning therefore affect the reason for our actions. I have never met you but feel I understand your reasoning when you decide to use the type of keyboard you use. Also you have made it clear the technique you use to accompany your singing. Very nice results, I must say. However, cut your throat and what’s left? Only the board used to accompany the main part of your act. The determining factors for choosing the board you have are no longer completely valid. You state you are a one or two finger left hand chord player and are not willing to change. Now that the main God given part of your performance is gone and you want to play music using a keyboard as the sole source of sound and performance, I would bet you would be out evaluating them all again. In other words the reason for purchase would change. Ease of operation, versatility, quality of sound, quantity of sounds and rhythms, reliability, and on and on. I do not and do I know anyone of my acquaintances who have purchased their KN’s because of loyalty to technics. Loyalty? For what? Because they take my money? Because they cost a tad more than most others? I bought mine because of the reasons I stated above. I think by reading all the posts on this forum it is apparent most all the others are of the same reasoning. I have mine, as must of us do, because we consider it a very fine musical instrument sitting on the cutting edge of technology. Top of the heap for making authentic music. Designed to do just that and do it with ease and reliability. On the other forum there are those who buy because of cost. Buy because of weight. Buy because of color, LED lights, gadgets, loyalty, of what others think and on and on and on? Childness, to say the least. If your singing is the product, then use the accessories needed to present it. Accessories that you are capable of using with the ability you posses. Dave, your right. Most all of us are not singers. Most of us are instrumentalists of one kind or another. That link you think is missing is not missing for us. You think our choice of boards is as good as any other but no better. You salute our continued enthusiasm and seem to not understand why. We express emotions and our artistry through our fingers and you through your voice. The keyboard for you is only a backing for the main attraction. Not to take the spotlight off of you. For us the keyboard is our voice. Not being blessed with a naturally gifted voice we must purchase one. After experimenting and evaluating different ones we have chosen the best for our type of singing. Yes, we are very enthusiastic. We had to buy what for you was a gift. Our ears are very pleased with what we hear and the people we play for, confirm this. What other keyboard is so well received that a book has been written on ‘Getting the most from your KN7000’. What other forum has a man so knowledgeable and so willing to share it, than we have. Is it no wonder we bubble over with enthusiastic words of delight? When people have shelled out upwards of thirty to forty G’s for their organs and then drop another three to buy a KN7000 because it sounds better than their organ, WHY? There must be something there to trigger their enthusiasm. I can only hope you will have a little better understanding. Our voice is not like your voice. When people buy us they buy a little different product produced in a little different manner. Dave, your posts always stimulate the brain. As the book of books says, ‘My people are parishing for a lack of understanding’. I hope understanding has increased for the good of these forums and for all of us. Sometimes not quite understanding what one says and thinks is like that man who in a twinkle of an eye was eighty years old. So Dave and the rest of you guys, open up the old brain and let some of the wisdom flow out. Good for understanding and then we can all play a better song and be more in tune.

Grandpa Doug

Nice One Gramps and Hear! Hear! to your comments.
As I mentioned before, I have been 'Loyal' to the Technics brand for many years now, but my loyalty is not to Technics as such - it is purely due to my personal opinion, that they make the best keyboards. However, I still have an open mind, and if I find another maker's keyboard that suits my purpose then I will either add it to my collection or possibly replace my KN7000. My very first keyboard was a Yamaha 6100, which, at the time, I thought was 'The Bee's Knees' until I heard a Technics KN800. The Yamaha very quickly disappeared However, since hearing some very good reports about the Tyros, from people whose opinions I respect, I have been having a look at one and have now placed an order. I think it will probably complement rather than replace my KN7000.

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Willum

Willum, I really like singers, I really do. I admire someone with a good voice and especially those who know how to use it well. I really do. With that said I hope you can’t sing a lick. I mean it, not to be mean but so I can get an opinion of a non singer. The only way to really get to know someone is to live with them for awhile. And so it is with keyboards. After you have had her for awhile I would be very much interested in your opinion of your new music maker. How is she built. How does she sound when you play with her. Which of the two sounds like the real thing, like a live band? Which is easier to use in a live performance. I had a rolands once because I liked the piano on the thing. After I had it for awhile and learned how to use the thing I had a brainstorm. At that time I also had my KN5000. About six of us guys would meet at each others house every so often to shoot the boloney and play music. We each would try to conjure up something of interest for the guys when it was our turn for the get together. I had just read an article on evaluating things and the methods used. One method was the blind test. Brainstorm, ya, that’s it. Took my 5 and recorded a song I was going to play at the dinner dance gig coming up. Done the same on the rolands. Talking to myself, as I do frequently, I said, why not? So went into the closet and dug out the old 1000 and did the same, picking out a similar fox trot style and recorded it. Double the plot, I mused, and done the same with a waltz. The other guy I talk with in my brain said, it ain’t fair. Ain’t fair? Ya, ain’t fair! Ok, OK and dug out my mackie mixer and my pair of Yamaha MS 60’s and rigged it all up. Can’t fault the different speakers or amps, but sure was a lot of work. After Ruthie and me rigged up one of her sheets in front of the whole mess we declared success and agreed we were ready. Let’s party. Just like those guys, first thing out of their mouth when coming in was a comment on our new decorating scheme. Shut up, sit down and don’t touch. Whats a matter, we going to play spooks or something? Ruthie, watch em, I’m gona get some drinks. After everybody flushed their tonsils I said we’re going to play a new game, ‘Which One’. Which one? You ain’t even given us a choice yet. All right, all right the only thing needed to play ‘Which One’ is your ears, so relax. I got a big dinner dance gig coming up. I have to choose one out of three to play the thing. If you were one of those at the dance which would you choose to listen to. I will now go under one of Ruthies’ sheets, which I am used to doing, and play the same song on each board. Here goes. Never heard these guys be so quiet for such a long time. Emerging, I said, Well......? OK OK, interesting, can you play a different style. Disappearing again I lit off the waltzes. After another period of silence I said, SOooo.....? Number two board won on both styles. With great flair, Ruthie and me then rolled up her lilly white sheet exposing the three beauties. So, the one with the biggest screen sitting in the middle, is the one I played the dinner dance with. Shhhhh.....I was going to use it anyway.

So Willum, this is the kind of evaluation I am confident you can and will give. I will be waiting with bated, and hopefully not bad smelling, breath. Boy, I hope your not a singer.

Grandpa Doug

Hi Gramps, I have a singing voice akin to bullfrog with a bad cold and I certainly wouldn't inflict it on the public, when I'm playing my KN7000. However, when I did have a band, way back in the 60's / 70's we had a male and female singer out front, and the keyboard player and I sang harmony behind them - the voice was a bit younger then and just about acceptable But Now - no way Jose !! So no offence taken Gramps
I'm not sure when my new toy will arrive - I'm told they are in short supply at present. When I've had time to evaluate it against the KN7000 I'll post my findings.


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Willum

Lot of good posts here, thanks to all
Bebop

I have a KN7000 and a KN6500 which I have not sold yet. When I got my KN6500, It was hard to pass it without putting my hands on it. It was a joy to play, far more than the previous Technics keyboards.

There have been many factual views posted about the value of the KN7000 keyboard as related to the KN6500, mine is will be an emotional one.

I read reports that said other than the SD card there was not much change in the KN7000. When I got mine in Decenber, I compared styles, sounds, and all the bells and whistles and thought that the reports may be right.

After a short break in period I find I can play better on this new keyboard, I able to move faster, the sounds excite me, it is getting more attention from those who listen, and most important, it has a feel and responce that makes playing a step or two above joy.

I began playing keyboard with a Yamaha PSR 6300 which had a lid/cover that came down the cover the keys and here I am back many years latter. I liked the lid then, and I like it now. Great idea.

Have a great day, John C.

I would contest the assumption that the KN7000 is "the best keyboard you can own". Check out the Wersi Abacus. It is streets ahead, in many ways of all the opposition. What other keyboard can record direct to CD, has superior sound sampling, and - very important - is made to LAST and not be replaced every year by yet another model. It can be upgraded from CDROM. The only reasons I didn't buy one are:
a. It is too expensive - I don't do many paid gigs anymore.
b. It is too heavy - takes 2 to carry it.
Mike O'R

Mike, the very two reasons you gave to contest the assumption is the very two reasons why the KN7000 is the very best keyboard you can OWN. Whoever thinks that recording direct to a CD is some kind of an asset is the person who never makes an error, considers himself perfect and carries a tremendous weight on his shoulders. His ego! I have two ways to record to CD. My computer and my marantz CD recorder. A much cheaper and more versatile way to go. I can nestle it under my arm pit and sashay over to anyone of my friends places and make a CD of any keyboard they may have. Also does duplicates easier than making pancakes. Can be upgraded from CDROM? Rather have my KN7000 that has never needed an upgrade. Don’t know how the Wersi stores and recalls things but I’ll take the SD card system over any of the old fashion ways of the past. Made to last? Man, I still have the very first one I bought and it still works the same as the day I bought it. Not be replaced every year by another model? What manufacture replaces them every year? When you say the Wersi can be upgraded by CDROM how do they upgrade the amp and speaker system by CDROM? How do they upgrade the old hard drive and the floppy disk system with the CDROM? How do they improve the panel layout of the board, the button placement, add features, improve the screen etc. with the CDROM? Lets face it, I can buy three or four boards for the cost of one Wersi and be on the leading edge of technology at all times. Of course all minds work and reason in different ways. Me and my mind have gotten to know each other pretty well over the last seventy some years. At times we, me and my mind, disagree, and that becomes stressful to the point of me not liking what I think. When push comes to shove, me usually tells my mind where it can go and me gets what me wants. However, as far as the KN7000 is the best keyboard you can own, me and my mind are in total agreement. Ruthie has over the years realized that it is best not to intrude into the discussion of me and my mind. She does the cooking and I furnish the entertainment. Other than that, we like to hang out together.

Grandpa Doug
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Gotcha goin' Doug!
Mike

Thanks Mike, I'm gona take a nap.

Grandpa Doug