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#502858 - 05/15/21 01:29 AM Re: Are you performing with a face mask? [Re: montunoman]
Bernie9 Offline
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Good point, so how are the businesses going to know who is who. The idea of vaccination cards has pretty much been discarded, but I carry my papers in my wallet,
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#502860 - 05/15/21 06:17 AM Re: Are you performing with a face mask? [Re: Bernie9]
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I have a picture of both sides of my vac card on my phone. My original card is safely at home.
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#502863 - 05/15/21 10:41 AM Re: Are you performing with a face mask? [Re: montunoman]
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Good thinking, Mel.

Diki, every person that I know that has received the vaccine has a card showing they have been fully vaccinated. No different than showing a drivers license to rent a car, etc... And, those of us that have children had to show proof of vaccination for various childhood diseases for our kids to enter school. There is nothing complicated about this, and we don't really need a bunch of politicians to make the decisions on that precautions we should take. Keep in mind that tuberculosis is far more contagious and deadly, yet we didn't have to shut down an entire nation in order to work through this and find a cure for the disease. In all the years I worked in the field of medicine, one thing stood out. Common sense was probably the best guideline for wellness. Unfortunately, common sense is not very common these days. And, I don't know about the rest of the forum members, but I would never let a politician remove my appendix, or even an ingrown toenail, for that matter.

Paul, you are a great entertainer/musician and I'm confident that you and your wife pulled this off without a hitch. Congratulations, young man.

Gary cool
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#502867 - 05/15/21 06:59 PM Re: Are you performing with a face mask? [Re: montunoman]
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Requiring masks for singers outdoors on a stage is really nuts. Aerosole science is clear that there is zero infection risk in that scenario.
Walmart‘s decision to drop mask mandate for all customers is dangerous in contrast. Another example of how irrational society as a whole deals with the virus.
[Added:] If courts take account of science, no visitor would be able to successfully sue an event organizer claiming he/she was infected by someone from an outdoor stage.


Edited by Crossover (05/16/21 03:45 AM)

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#502868 - 05/15/21 07:06 PM Re: Are you performing with a face mask? [Re: montunoman]
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What you may have missed, Gary, no longer traveling to my Florida, is that we have a Governor that has made it illegal for any business or State entity to even ASK for proof of vaccination. He is turning away cruise lines that want to make it safe to go cruise (and work on cruise ships) because they wish to restrict passengers to those who have been fully vaccinated.

Now THAT’S what I would call stupid, erring on the side of the idiots that won’t vaccinate because they bought into the Big Lie.
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#502871 - 05/16/21 05:01 AM Re: Are you performing with a face mask? [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By Diki
What you may have missed, Gary, no longer traveling to my Florida, is that we have a Governor that has made it illegal for any business or State entity to even ASK for proof of vaccination. He is turning away cruise lines that want to make it safe to go cruise (and work on cruise ships) because they wish to restrict passengers to those who have been fully vaccinated.

Now THAT’S what I would call stupid, erring on the side of the idiots that won’t vaccinate because they bought into the Big Lie.


+++1.

What's even more dangerous than the virus is the dessemination of misinformation (usually politically motivated) by non-credentialed people who think they know more than the MD's and Phd's with years of legitimate, accredited research under their belts. The question is, does your "Patriotic Rights" include the right to endanger your fellow citizens (who choose to follow the official guidelines and the law)? Just my opinion.
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#502877 - 05/16/21 03:04 PM Re: Are you performing with a face mask? [Re: travlin'easy]
montunoman Offline
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Registered: 10/20/09
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy
Good thinking, Mel.

Paul, you are a great entertainer/musician and I'm confident that you and your wife pulled this off without a hitch. Congratulations, young man.

Gary cool


Thanks Gary, especially for the "young man" reference smile So far, the only hitch besides the silly mask rule, is inclement weather (rain and a tornado warning) and the heat of the sun, which will only get worse as we enter the summer months. But it is great to working, so I'll stop complaining!
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#502878 - 05/16/21 03:08 PM Re: Are you performing with a face mask? [Re: Crossover]
montunoman Offline
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Originally Posted By Crossover
Requiring masks for singers outdoors on a stage is really nuts. Aerosole science is clear that there is zero infection risk in that scenario.
Walmart‘s decision to drop mask mandate for all customers is dangerous in contrast. Another example of how irrational society as a whole deals with the virus.
[Added:] If courts take account of science, no visitor would be able to successfully sue an event organizer claiming he/she was infected by someone from an outdoor stage.


Yes, you got to wonder who makes up these rules? But I'll keep wearing my mask at the outdoor park because I want to work, and I'll also keep wearing my mask at Walmart just to be safe.
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#502881 - 05/17/21 07:35 AM Re: Are you performing with a face mask? [Re: montunoman]
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Their are times that government can, and should make rules that provide for general safety, like seat belts, smoke alarms, and yes masks during a pandemic. If the government reduces the mask wearing mandate, it does not mean business's MUST follow. To have the government (Florida) force business's to abolish any mask mandates is really kind of a tyranny government.


Paul, it is confusing, but if the sax player is allowed to slip down his mask, maybe singers should be allowed to also. Just ask the business who hired you, and go with that.

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#502883 - 05/17/21 07:54 AM Re: Are you performing with a face mask? [Re: lahawk]
montunoman Offline
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Registered: 10/20/09
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Loc: Dallas, Texas
Originally Posted By lahawk



Paul, it is confusing, but if the sax player is allowed to slip down his mask, maybe singers should be allowed to also. Just ask the business who hired you, and go with that.

jmo



Yeah, it's weird, but singers (even outdoors at the park) must wear masks) Mine kind of slipped below my nose while I was singing, without me realizing, and I got a stern reminder to keep my mouth and nose fully covered at all times. So we've learned to sing with masks on, just making the best of it, and I hope these rules become more sensible was we move forward.

It's funny, the guys in the band were joking around saying "remember when musicians would complain when we had to wear tuxes and bow ties?" Nowadays it's the mask.
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