OK I have heard of Creatsongstyles.com read a post from 2012, so now 2021 is it still in operation and can anyone say anything about this,
also read posts in relation to no problem getting styles for yamaha keyboards apparently splashed all over the Internet, but for ketron Audya 5 there's nothing, I think the ketron auyda 5 is a great arranger, is there anywhere that make song styles by request and where is the best to purchase styles, if I had known its net to near impossible to get songs and styles for this keyboard, I would not have bought it, but yes it is a super arranger, so why is there not a vast library of material out there, I could be wrong, correct me if so and please help!

Try this

https://ketronamerica.com/audya.html

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Look here >> https://www.d-o-o.de/catalog_by_keytype.php?keytype=7%2C19&&lang=en

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One of the issues with the Ketron is that the factory styles use audio drum tracks. This means that translations from other brands’ styles will always compare poorly to the wonderful audio track factory styles of the Ketron, because they will have to use the built-in midi drum kits, not recordings of real drummers!

It is a double edged sword, if you want consistency through your show you either have to use all audio drum track styles, or all midi drum track styles, or you end up with some of your songs sounding amazing, and others well, not so amazing!

Personally, I think audio track drum tracks (and guitar tracks, bass tracks etc.) is a dead end because of the content issue. Nowadays, some of the larger VST drum library’s are capable of making well recorded midi drum tracks sound like they were audio. Even some of the better Midi drum kits in Roland and the new Yamaha Revo kits can get very close to fooling you it is a real drummer, especially if a real drummer plays a midi drum kit to create the drumming in the first place.

This naturally means it is a piece of cake to translate a style from another manufacturer to those drum kits… Well, not EXACTLY a piece of cake! LOL, but definitely easier than creating an audio track with your drummer, drum kit, microphones and studio of choice!

Audio drums is a shortcut, but a shortcut with limitations. Stick a couple of GB of well recorded drum samples being triggered by an electronic drum kit, and you end up with something almost indistinguishable, but without the limitations. Want a different snare? Done. Want to move a kick pattern so it matches a syncopated bass line? Done. Want to add a subtle amount of swing to a straight beat (or vice versa)? Done.

I love Ketron’s audio drums. But not at the price of losing all editing ability or having my third party content fare poorly against them…

Thank you very much for your time writing that last message, I'm after reading it about 3 times over, you mention Audio drums is a shortcut, eg want different snare kick etc, do you mean open a style abut instead of using drumkit within this style, use an Audya real kit in place of the midi,
I'm sure I have seen something about this topic on YouTube, but no idea where,
I did purchase styles from musicman on ebayand being midi drum kit actually sounds really good, but in all fairness you can't beat the real audya kit
you know I have to say I did read online, not saying where that the Ketron Audya 5 is a timeless updatable arranger,
But yet all the talk is about SD90 etc and Audya 5 seems to be getting put on the back burner which is said to be a Timeless arranger, I going to try put audio drums on one of my midi now for the first time ans see whow this goes, then is it possible to save this new file as a new style and create new folder and pop my all my edited styles in to the new folder on my Audya 5 which is now updated to the latest software o.s 54 thanks again for your help


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Hello.
Here is a demo with my new Audio Style for my new PenDrive for Audya & SD9/90 that will be released after few months. Later will be released and for Yamaha Genos also.
Thanks
https://soundcloud.com/sokratis-1974/ketron-audya-new-audio-style-rock-chacha-1-by-sokratis1974

Although you can use a kit instead of the audio loop, it boils down to how GOOD the kit is. And, let’s face it, if the kit sounded as good as the loop, they wouldn’t bother with loops in the first place!

Modern VSTi drum libraries have far more velocity levels, round robins and left hand/right hand samples, and close and room mics. Yes, it’s data intensive, but far less than a piano library or orchestral library, so still within the realms of possibility for a hardware keyboard. The Revo drums in the Genos are starting to show the way (round robins and far more hi hat articulations, for instance) and I think this is the future.

Many of the Ketron’s audio styles seem to share the same basic kit, which is a good thing in one way, leading to good consistency with the styles, but it also begs the question, if so many styles use the same kit, why not ONE super-sampled MIDI kit that could sound damn close to the loop, allowing you the freedom to edit the style’s drum and percussion tracks?

And, if one super kit, why not two or three, a modern kit, a vintage kit, and a brushes/rods kit?

One of my favorite thing to do to pretty up-front in your face styles is to replace the rock kit with brushes, the bass with an upright, the rock guitars with acoustics, all of a sudden you’ve got something that still works, but won’t roar at your audience, just purr quietly! It’s amazing how much further your style selection goes if you can free yourself from the ROM style’s sounds!

Sokratis 1974 - You create professional styles. Are they already available on Audya?

I think one of the issues with semi-professional users trying to sell Ketron audio drum styles is that, unless they have access to a great kit, a great studio and a great drummer, they are likely to try using a live loop library from a commercial product, and unfortunately the license for those things usually only covers being used in commercial music productions, not as the basis for another software product like a drum groove software or arranger styles.

I would imagine, to protect themselves from possible lawsuits for copyright infringement, the style producer would need to negotiate a usage fee with the original loop creator. That’s likely a hassle, and possibly more expensive than it’s worth given the tiny market for Ketron styles…

Hello Sarepaul. Not yet. I'm working on something new for Audya series and SD9/90 also.
It will still take several months to complete.
All this new Audio styles include new audio drums.
Here is a new demo https://soundcloud.com/sokratis-1974/ketron-sd9-smooth-fusion-new-audio-style-by-sokratis-genwave
Thanks.

For some, the authenticity that Audio Drums present far outweighs their limitation. These folks get KETRON Audya/SD9 series.

For others, however, the editability of drum parts far outweighs their authenticity. These folks get other manufacturer brands.

For those who want both, they get the AjamSonic drum kits (which are individual samples of the drum kits used to create the initial audio loops... having the best of both worlds!

Thanks,

Thank you for the information, I will be waiting patiently and hope that the results of your work will be available soon on Audya. Only Yamaha everywhere and it's getting harder and harder to get GOOD ketron styles

GOOD PROFESSIONAL KETRON STYLES (Sokratis 1974 and his drummer were both involved in some of the AUDYA styles)

* http://www.ajamsonic.com/styles.htm
* http://www.ajamsonic.com/countrystyles.htm
* http://www.ketronamerica.com/audyademos.html
* http://www.ketronamerica.com/audya.html

I loved your SPECTRA video. Beautiful scenery to go with a beautiful style

Maybe one day in the future, arrangers can use multitrack interleaved audio files as the source for audio drums etc..

if you have a 7.1 or a 5.1 interleaved file, that’s 8 or 6 independent tracks where you could have kick, snare, cymbals and overheads, possibly toms, all on tracks that could be micro adjusted a bit depending on the situation. I really like some of Sokratis’ styles, but feel that in a busy mix, the snare is probably perfect, but strip it down, and possibly it’s a hair over the top. It would be possible once arrangers have the horsepower to play 7.1 files (so there’s no sync issues with phasing between tracks) to adjust the track volumes and even EQ and effect sends without having to resort to the matched sampled drums.

Even pretty low power Android devices can stream 7.1 these days,, so I think if it’s something the keyboard manufacturers think is a good idea, the chipsets are available and not ultra expensive.

Mixing is such an art, change one element in a tune, it’s amazing how much you need to adjust the drum balance, compression, EQ etc. (plus most of the other sounds!). It would be amazing if one day in the near future, we get the authenticity of live loops, but still the control to be able to adjust the mix as needed! 🎹😎👌

I use www.createsongstyles.com extensively for my Technics KN7000 keyboard. No the web site does not provide any styles for my keyboard so I download other manufacturers styles from there and then convert them using EMC Styleworks software.