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#504408 - 12/03/21 02:37 AM
Re: looking for Frank or Dan !!
[Re: rattley]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
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#504440 - 12/09/21 05:56 AM
Re: looking for Frank or Dan !!
[Re: rattley]
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 1676
Loc: Milford, CT, USA
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It's not fun, 1-6 months to get certain models in. Just got 2 PSR-SX900s in, after 2 months wait. Everything I have in stock, nobody wants, but everything that's back-ordered, everybody wants.
Korg is has discontinued the PA4x series but has no announcement about the 5x, I've had PA-1000s on order for months, but haven't received any.
I thought being a small 1 man shop competing with the big guys was hard before? haha, I was wrong
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#504444 - 12/09/21 11:24 AM
Re: looking for Frank or Dan !!
[Re: rattley]
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14307
Loc: NW Florida
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I have my doubts that Korg Have discontinued the PA4X with no successor in the pipeline. But it IS a savvy move to not announce the replacement until frantic buyers have snapped up the remaining stock of the old model!
The thing that I am looking forward to is a new arranger based on the Nautilis engine. I honestly think that we have reached the end of the line with how far the old Triton architecture can be exploited. Korg have had the Kronos/Nautilus engine up and running for 10 years now, it’s about time we arranger players got a piece of the action…
I particularly want to see the Nautilus’ 12 insert effects… Genos has 28 (😱), the SX900 has 8, the SX700 has 5, even the decade old BK9 has 5. Korg’s TOTL PA4X’s measly 4 total inserts is looking pretty dated.
I can’t tell you how freeing having sufficient insert effects is. Effects are so integral to most sounds, the right phaser, the perfect amp simulator, a well designed compressor, a specialty reverb like gated or reverse, they are as important to the sound as the samples themselves. And you get them on the main keyboard sounds…
The problem starts when you say to yourself ‘Hey, I’d like that sound in a style’. But you used up all your inserts on just the keyboard Parts. Now you’re stuck trying to figure out if a) you can do without an insert effect on your keyboard sound, b) whether there’s a passable sound without an effect that will SORT of do, or worse c) send two sounds to the same effect. What a PITA!
Enough inserts for every style and keyboard Part is the solution. The 12 in the Nautilus would just about do the job. Yes, Genos’s 28 is a bit overkill, but in a keyboard first, you can route the output of one insert into another insert, so okay, not too shabby!
The Triton engine made its way into the arranger line within a year or so of its launch. Why Korg users have had to wait TEN years (and counting) for the Kronos/Nautilus hardware is perplexing to say the least.
I can understand Korg discontinuing the PA4X, but only if a new generation is incoming. Another model based on the 20 year old Triton architecture is not going to set the world on fire, IMHO.
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#504467 - 12/12/21 07:00 PM
Re: looking for Frank or Dan !!
[Re: rattley]
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14307
Loc: NW Florida
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I have my doubts whether, to the diehard Korg user, another iteration of the Triton line will make the difference between a Genos purchase and staying in the Korg ecosystem.
But I equally doubt yet another tired Triton based arranger, without a significant bump up in power, is going to lure Yamaha users away from their machines…
Let’s face it, in the arranger segment, it’s a two horse race, Ketron has an uphill battle vying for bragging rights about sales and especially distribution, Roland have tapped out, Casio is an also-ran with a dubious soundset, but the odd interesting OS feature, but at the upper semi-pro and pro end of the market, we have two choices.
One of which is breaking new ground, one of which is mired in the past. I think if Korg trot out another Triton based arranger, it’s going to become a one horse race. We are a diminishing breed. To capture the same numbers as 1/3rd of the market 20 years ago, you’d have to corner 90% of the market today. The diehards are going to buy what they are used to (Donny’s return to the Yamaha fold after trying out everything and its uncle every time was so predictable!) but newer players are going to look for convenience and forward thinking,. Another 20+ year old hardware knockoff isn’t going to attract the younger player.
Crunch time, Korg….!
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