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#505347 - 04/01/22 06:22 PM
Re: Digging Deeper On Your Arrangers?
[Re: cgiles]
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Registered: 03/22/17
Posts: 449
Loc: Mountain Home, AR
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The thing is that most of you forget is that different people learn at different rates. I'm sorry but I've printed out the manual. I've also printer out whole sections of psr tutorial. I've read sections if instructions over and over and still don't know how to do stuff I have studied in depth. The arranger is not a easy to play and meke it sound good. You need to arrange each tune separately. This taked a lot more work than just playing a piano or organ.
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#505354 - 04/02/22 03:31 PM
Re: Digging Deeper On Your Arrangers?
[Re: MusicalMemories]
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14277
Loc: NW Florida
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Well, as one of the first people in the States to get a DX7 and a breath controller (lucked into one while everybody else was on waiting lists and paying over retail!) I can’t disagree that it certainly HELPS to have a BC, and back before modeling and articulated sample sets, I’d have agreed 100%. But I don’t think it’s as necessary as it used to be. I’ve been working with the SWAM saxes on iPad, and by using the expression pedal, you can get about 80% of what the BC used to give you.
Yes, if you put a picky enough ear on it, just like the very best clone wheels, you can hear a difference. But to 99.9% of people, play an idiomatic enough line, you can get away with it..!
BTW, Roli got bought out and the new company is back making them. They also added a tactile line in the middle of the key to help your finger settle. I look forward to trying one soon…
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#505358 - 04/03/22 12:50 PM
Re: Digging Deeper On Your Arrangers?
[Re: MusicalMemories]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Chas I think that is a great emulation of a slow lounge sax' I have a breathy sax on my Pa4x that doesn't sound that good. It could be my playing,duh.
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#505361 - 04/04/22 10:12 AM
Re: Digging Deeper On Your Arrangers?
[Re: MusicalMemories]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Yamaha's Sweet Tenor Sax is incredibly realistic and Boo Hargis said that it sounds so realistic that he would have a great deal of difficulty listening and determining if it was real or not. There are lots of other instruments on the newer model Yamaha arranger keyboards that are equally as realistic sounding, and in the hands of a good player, they can really make a huge difference in the production of a song. I personally believe that fingering technique and in depth knowledge of the instrument you are trying to emulate is the key to success. Don Mason was a sheer genius with his guitar emulation, and my son, whom is an accomplished guitarist said it would be impossible to know those sounds were coming from an arranger keyboard. Jimmy McKinney (JimSax) who was inducted in the Musicians Hall Of Fame in Maryland for his sax playing said he wishes he could get his tenor sax to sound as good as the one on his Tyros2 arranger keyboard. Attached are a few examples: 4 different sax demos from my PSR-S950. Sax Demos Gary
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