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#505420 - 04/10/22 02:57 AM
Re: Acoustic instrument emulation
[Re: cgiles]
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Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Chas, that was sweet. Organ and vibes were great. While I am not in a position to specifically compare, I don't know how it could sound more realistic. As an aside, your piece reminds me of how less is better, sometimes. Thanks for sharing.
Bernie
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#505442 - 04/11/22 07:50 AM
Re: Acoustic instrument emulation
[Re: cgiles]
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Registered: 10/20/09
Posts: 3230
Loc: Dallas, Texas
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Paul, thank you so much. That's EXACTLY the feedback I wanted since I tend to use vibes quite frequently as a solo instrument since I got my beloved SEVEN. It's a great alternative if you're a lousy pianist (like me). Yes, the SEVEN does have some edit parameters and I will definitely try softening the sound. BTW, the soulful Milt Jackson ("Bags") has always been my favorite vibes player. Also like Vic Feldman (who absolutely does have a softer sound). Didn't know you played vibes but I'm not surprised. So does Russ. In fact, there are a surprising number of competent alt-instrument players on this forum, which is good for the 'music' side of the forum. Thanks again for the feedback. I think it's good to critique our instruments. You never know when you'll get a tip that may immensely improve one of it's voices.
chas I'm glad you took my critique in a positive way, and again it's just my opinion. There's probably lots of vibes players that prefer the harder Lionel Hampton sound, which is cool too. I felt like you were trying to get a small jazz combo, which most vibraphonist favor a soft mallet. All keyboard percussion ( vibes, marimba, xylophone, glockenspiel) use different types of mallets. Your vibe sounds a bit too much like a glockenspiel- which uses poly plastic, brass or aluminum mallet heads as opposed the the yarn/wool of a vibe mallet. Also the speed of the fan of the vibraphone has huge effect on the sound. Lionel Hampton kept the fan on the fastest setting. Milton Jackson kept the fan on very slow. This along with the softer yarn mallet with a big head, gave him the warm sound that fit the MJQ so well. So besides mallet choice consider fan sped/tremolo sound as well. Again, I really enjoyed your recording, I don't mean to "nitpick" but those are some accepts that came to mind as I listened.
Edited by montunoman (04/11/22 07:50 AM)
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#505463 - 04/12/22 11:45 AM
Re: Acoustic instrument emulation
[Re: montunoman]
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
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Chas, that was a favorite tune I actually played nightly on vibes at the Holiday Inn west in Lexington from 1970 to 1972. My long-time partner, who was struggling with arthritis, played B-3, but gradually transitioned to left-handed bass and chords (no lead lines) kept up the bottom. Drum sounds were via a terrible MiltiVox machine. I had vibes, Wurlitzer piano, jazz, tele, nylon string, tenor banjo, lap steel (had to play Sleepwalk, you know) and mandolin.
So thankful I actually had chance to play vibes with a great partner. Just sold the vibes along with over 100 other instruments (so far) this year. Funds will go to a charity you know about in New Orleans.
Goes without saying that this post, like others of yours, was one of my favorites, especially considering I used to play it on vibes, switching to jazz guitar for a turn or two; then finishing with vibes.
Your version, as usual, was TASTY!
Russ
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