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#50593 - 08/21/07 05:01 PM Speakers
Audrey Turner Offline
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Registered: 03/19/02
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Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Hi All,

Here's a question I've been asked and couldn't give an honest answer to:

As the keyboards are now stereo, can two separate speakers be connected direct to the keyboard without having to use an amplifier? If not, why not?

Audrey

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#50594 - 08/21/07 05:31 PM Re: Speakers
Bill Norrie Offline
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Posts: 2330
Loc: North Yorkshire UK
Hi Audrey,
The answer is NO. The outputs from the KN7000 do not provide sufficient power, to directly drive speakers. You need Power Amplifiers to do the job.
The KN7000 already incorporates Power Amplifiers to drive its own internal speakers, but the outputs from these amplifiers are not made available externally.
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#50595 - 08/21/07 05:39 PM Re: Speakers
KeithB Offline
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Registered: 01/29/03
Posts: 317
Loc: Melbourne AUSTRALIA
Seperate speakers can be connected to your keyboard, provided they are ACTIVE speakers. That is they have their own built in amplifier power system.
I use two Behringer B2031's connected to either my KN7000 or Tyros 2 or Motif ES6, via an Alto S-12 Mixer.
Keith

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#50596 - 08/22/07 03:43 AM Re: Speakers
bruno123 Offline
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Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
As the keyboards are now stereo, can two separate speakers be connected direct to the keyboard without having to use an amplifier? If not, why not?

Audrey[/B][/QUOTE]

Audrey,
Are you thinking of adding speakers to your keyboard?

John C.

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#50597 - 08/22/07 03:26 PM Re: Speakers
Audrey Turner Offline
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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 1098
Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Thanks Everyone for your replies.

Bill - that's why I wouldn't commit myself to an answer, just in case it should 'blow' our member's keyboard. Best to be safe than sorry eh?

Keith - your Behringer B2031 - I don't think I've heard of these speakers. Can you give further details on them including the purchase price and weight please?

John C - I'm using the Yamaha Stagepas 300 at the moment, but I find them a little heavy to transport if my husband isn't around to help. When this question came up, it got me thinking that perhaps there was an easier way.

Audrey

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#50598 - 08/22/07 09:48 PM Re: Speakers
KeithB Offline
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Audrey
See http://www.behringer.com/B3031A/index.cfm?lang=eng
Mine are the original B2031, the new ones are called B2031A (A for active)
You should note that these are studio monitors, that is ideal for small rooms but not for public performances (called near field)
Keith

[This message has been edited by KeithB (edited 08-22-2007).]

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#50599 - 08/23/07 05:03 AM Re: Speakers
Bill Norrie Offline
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Available here at £180.00 : http://www.bem-music.com/list.pl?id=105794
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Willum

After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is Music.
Aldous Huxley
( especially when the music is played on a KN7000....)

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#50600 - 08/23/07 05:15 AM Re: Speakers
KeithB Offline
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Loc: Melbourne AUSTRALIA
Bill,
That URL indicates the B2030A which has a 6.75" woofer, the B2031A has greater power and a 8.75" woofer. For interest in Australia the RRP for the B2030A is $599 and the B2031A $699. http://www.behringer.com/02_products/group_index.cfm?mid=2&ID=200&lang=eng#STUDIO%20MONITORS
Keith

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#50601 - 08/23/07 05:24 AM Re: Speakers
Bill Norrie Offline
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Loc: North Yorkshire UK
Apologies for incorrect link - however, probably still adequate for Audrey's application, if price is a consideration

Having done a search, the B3031/B3031A does not appear to be available in UK.

The Australian prices you quote seem a bit on the high side Converted to UK they are £244 and £285.




[This message has been edited by Bill Norrie (edited 08-23-2007).]
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Willum

After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is Music.
Aldous Huxley
( especially when the music is played on a KN7000....)

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#50602 - 08/23/07 06:34 AM Re: Speakers
KeithB Offline
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Registered: 01/29/03
Posts: 317
Loc: Melbourne AUSTRALIA
Yes, as usual RRP are not what you would expect to pay! I looked up the Great Britain price on the Behringer web site and that gives 242 and 289 pounds UK. (Sorry, I can't find a pound sign on my computer keyboard!!)
Keith

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#50603 - 08/23/07 07:32 AM Re: Speakers
lahawk Offline
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Loc: Lehigh Valley, Pa.
To follow up Audry's question...

I'd like to know the setup you all use, that is, do you utilize the sub out, and if you could give details on how you split parts to speakers.

I currently use 2 crate amps, from the R/L out, and I know there is a way of achieving better sound results. The manual hints of instructions and splitting sounds using sub, but doesn't recommend a setting.

I have this feeling, that I am missing something good with the outputs.

So if you could share your detailed sound set up, and can offer any advise, it would be appreciated.

Thanks

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#50604 - 08/23/07 01:24 PM Re: Speakers
bruno123 Offline
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Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
What is missing here is:
1-How are these being used?
2-How many people will be present?
3-Is this going to be used only in my home?

For home use or gatherings of 50 people or less, I really feel the Logitech Z2300 at cost of $99 (Internet) will perform extremely well.

Two satellite speakers – very light – 5 inches tall. One sub – 8 inches.
You can control the amount of power (Volume) coming from the sub and satellites separately.

Circuit City I asking $155 and I was fortunate to buy mine at $69.

John C.

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#50605 - 08/23/07 04:27 PM Re: Speakers
Audrey Turner Offline
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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 1098
Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Yes Bruno,

You are quite right - consideration on size of rooms do have to be taken into account which is why I changed my Clarifier to a larger system. The Clarifer was brilliant for homes and small halls but even using the appropriate Reverb setting, it wasn't so good in larger halls particularly when there was a lot of 'chat' going on.

The only reason I'm looking for something else is the weight of the Stagepas 300.
To some of you boys with bulging muscles it wouldn't present a problem but to a 'sagging little ole lady' like me, it is if I am on my own. Admittedly, my husband is with me for loading/unloading purposes most of the time then of course, problem solved.

Thanks again for all your replies. I'm now going to visit the sites suggested.

Audrey

[This message has been edited by Audrey Turner (edited 08-23-2007).]

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#50606 - 08/23/07 08:56 PM Re: Speakers
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Audrey,

My next thought, Logitech X5500. Handles without distortion 200 to 300 people.

But there is some work to be done in order to make it portable.
Five satellite speakers.
Ten inch sub.

If you do a search on the general arranger forum you will have all the information you need.

I have the sub on a small platform on wheels, similar to the wheels on luggage. No having to carry – from the car onto the dolly.
The five satellite have very little weight.

Check your mail for pictures.

John C.

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