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#508612 - 07/23/23 10:06 AM Re: Roland FP-E50 ( not a real arranger but great) [Re: zuki]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By zuki
I will let you know when it arrives. The piano awaits all, still in the box.


Zuki curious minds are awaiting your review of the Roland FP-E50
you've had it a while now what do you think of it so far?

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#508613 - 07/23/23 11:02 AM Re: Roland FP-E50 ( not a real arranger but great) [Re: Dnj]
captain Russ Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Hey Donny...good to hear from you. Tried to call several times.


Be well,


R

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#508614 - 07/23/23 02:15 PM Re: Roland FP-E50 ( not a real arranger but great) [Re: jamman]
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Exactly, Chas. What good is an ARRANGER without the industry standard four variations..? Or the industry standard style import? This still being the ‘General ARRANGER Forum’, I will continue to review keyboards with arranger features as any other arranger. Maybe the day we start a ‘Stage Piano with very limited Arranger features’ forum, the FP-E50 will be the best thing ever made.

Maybe some of us are content with performing entire songs with two basic beats. But I guarantee, were you to ever play with a drummer that was so limited, you’d fire him..! For 20+ years, arranger players have had four variations to choose from. And you know what? In 20+ years, nobody has EVER said ‘I wish there were fewer’.

Until now…

My job here is not to make you feel better about your purchase. But it might be to inject a note of caution to arranger players that buy into the initial enthusiasm, unaware of basic issues that a non-arranger enthusiast might gloss over. That this has got your hackles up about it seems to prove my point.
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#508616 - 07/23/23 05:55 PM Re: Roland FP-E50 ( not a real arranger but great) [Re: jamman]
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Diki, if you have no interest in this board and no plans to buy one, why are you even in this conversation. Zuki was interested and had a few questions which, as an owner, I was happy to answer or check out. Enter the "BIG BRAIN" (aka 'Negative Nelly') with his usual bag of complaints, apparently to make sure everyone else's day is as sad and dreary as his. Ironically, his main complaint turned out to be just another source of MISINFORMATION.

The whole idea that your (self-appointed) JOB is to use your superior knowledge, experience, logic, and brainpower to save the 'great unwashed' from their own shallow, thoughtless, decision-making seems somehow, a little autocratic? He da' shepherd, we da' sheep.

If you've got a fat wife and 5 fat kids, you don't go out and buy a 2-seat sports roadster as your family car, but if you're a young single guy who can afford it, you might. Different strokes for different folks, different keyboards for different NEEDS, and everyone's needs are not the same. Russ's keyboard dates back to Roman times smile , but it meets HIS needs and he still makes a ton of money with it. It probably doesn't even have TWO variations but it doesn't matter much 'cause Russ KNOWS HOW TO PLAY. In my particular case, if I want to hear 'legacy' Roland styles, they play just fine on my BK7m. Oh well, I guess the bigger the brain, the smaller the ears.

Although I'm not a religious person, one of my favorite quotes just happens to be a biblical one; "THERE IS NONE SO BLIND AS HE THAT WILL NOT SEE" (emphasis on 'WILL').

chas
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#508617 - 07/23/23 08:06 PM Re: Roland FP-E50 ( not a real arranger but great) [Re: Dnj]
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By zuki
I will let you know when it arrives. The piano awaits all, still in the box.


Zuki curious minds are awaiting your review of the Roland FP-E50
you've had it a while now what do you think of it so far?


Hi Donny,

Just finishing up the home stuff. Had to wait on the stand and 3-pedalboard and glad I did - it's stunning. I played only a few minutes and it's a great feeling key bed, for sure. Been really busy and gigging tomorrow and will probably get to by Wednesday.

Thanks for asking!
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#508618 - 07/24/23 08:31 AM Re: Roland FP-E50 ( not a real arranger but great) [Re: zuki]
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Just finishing up the home stuff. Had to wait on the stand and 3-pedalboard and glad I did - it's stunning. I played only a few minutes and it's a great feeling key bed, for sure. Been really busy and gigging tomorrow and will probably get to by Wednesday.
Thanks for asking!


ok sooooooo To Be Continued ?... looking forward to it good luck.

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#508636 - 07/29/23 03:10 PM Re: Roland FP-E50 ( not a real arranger but great) [Re: jamman]
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4724
For anyone interested: I returned the e50. I thought it would take too much of my time and it was expensive with the package. The very next day, Marketplace locally had this listing: P125 package/white like new - $500. They took $300 and it is awesome too. I feel better to not go crazy money these days. This is a really great board by Yamaha. I like the aux outs too.


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#508637 - 07/29/23 03:14 PM Re: Roland FP-E50 ( not a real arranger but great) [Re: jamman]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Looks great. Let us know how you get along with it.

Good luck,

Gary cool
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#508638 - 07/29/23 04:03 PM Re: Roland FP-E50 ( not a real arranger but great) [Re: jamman]
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
Neat. As long as it meets your needs, that's all that counts. You sure as heck can't beat that price. Do you plan to add external speakers or does it need them? I don't know much about that board. Keep us posted.

chas
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#508640 - 07/29/23 05:57 PM Re: Roland FP-E50 ( not a real arranger but great) [Re: jamman]
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
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This is so very nice. It sounds amazing and I love the keybed too. I will run it into my Zed and out the MTMs. The piano is top notch and a joy to play. I like the piano better than the Nord I had. the strings layer super nice and decay perfectly. I'm blown away. It has a recorder and a few drum/bass rhythms. Just enough to have some fun.
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