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#510688 - 03/06/25 05:04 PM
Re: Songs like Roland G-1000/G-800’s intro in styles
[Re: Vadim]
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
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Look, I have no problem with people using songstyles, but the bigger issue is that each manufacturer only makes a certain number of brand new styles for each brand new arranger. The majority of the ROM styles will come from the previous model (and that one got most of its styles from the previous model!) so each new model probably gets less than 25% of its ROM styles as brand new.
Given that that’s quite a smaller number than the total, each songstyle is a larger percentage of the new styles, and thus the percentage of styles you can play without your audience realizing what the original is (the fact that someone from an audience recognized the intro and style being from another tune simply shows how obvious it is to even the layman) becomes smaller.
As pointed out, there are websites that specialize in songstyles, made to be as close to the original, and the truth is, the more likely that they have been made from those commercial SMF’s in the first place! Turning an SMF into a style is pretty easy these days.
With that being the case, why fill the ROM with songstyles as a) they’re easy to make or download and b) every one reduces the number of ORIGINAL styles? That’s what’s in short supply on user style sites. Very (very!) little ROM quality styles that weren’t just copy/pasted from commercial SMF’s and are fully original and exciting to use.
Just my 2¢, but so much of arranger use seems to be moving backwards, not forwards. The heyday of arrangers, it was exceedingly rare to have a ROM style virtually identical to the original. That’s what made playing them creative. ❤️🎹😎
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#510691 - 03/07/25 06:38 PM
Re: Songs like Roland G-1000/G-800’s intro in styles
[Re: Diki]
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Registered: 07/13/03
Posts: 343
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Look, I have no problem with people using songstyles, but the bigger issue is that each manufacturer only makes a certain number of brand new styles for each brand new arranger. The majority of the ROM styles will come from the previous model (and that one got most of its styles from the previous model!) so each new model probably gets less than 25% of its ROM styles as brand new.
Given that that’s quite a smaller number than the total, each songstyle is a larger percentage of the new styles, and thus the percentage of styles you can play without your audience realizing what the original is (the fact that someone from an audience recognized the intro and style being from another tune simply shows how obvious it is to even the layman) becomes smaller.
As pointed out, there are websites that specialize in songstyles, made to be as close to the original, and the truth is, the more likely that they have been made from those commercial SMF’s in the first place! Turning an SMF into a style is pretty easy these days.
With that being the case, why fill the ROM with songstyles as a) they’re easy to make or download and b) every one reduces the number of ORIGINAL styles? That’s what’s in short supply on user style sites. Very (very!) little ROM quality styles that weren’t just copy/pasted from commercial SMF’s and are fully original and exciting to use.
Just my 2¢, but so much of arranger use seems to be moving backwards, not forwards. The heyday of arrangers, it was exceedingly rare to have a ROM style virtually identical to the original. That’s what made playing them creative. ❤️🎹😎 I agree. But I'm not looking for styles, I want to listen to pop-ballad / soft rock songs that have nice and slightly jazzy chords progressions in the intro, instrumental break, and ending.
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