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#51976 - 09/28/05 11:28 PM Re: I Just ordered the Tyros 2 From Dan O
Johnnie.c Offline
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Originally posted by BEBOP:
I think that MOST people do not buy Arranger Keyboards to be editors.
Bebop

I don't think MOST people buy the KN7000, one of the most popular sought after keyboards on EBay and probably the world to keep tinkling with the fluffs intact and groping in the dark

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#51977 - 09/29/05 12:06 AM Re: I Just ordered the Tyros 2 From Dan O
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Originally posted by technicsplayer:
as far as on board editing is concerned, which is what Bill referred to, it is most definitely second by a l-o-n-g way.




I was referring to editing using the computer programs. It's much easier. But then, I don't do a lot of that. I'd rather play music than push buttons. haha

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#51978 - 09/29/05 07:28 AM Re: I Just ordered the Tyros 2 From Dan O
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I think the Tyros 2 will be a great keyboard. I don't plan to buy one however. I have a YamahaPSR3000 as a second keyboard, I find it quite easy to use......however I don't do much editing. I have a couple of Yamaha Software programs that allow me to do some style manipulation on my computer, enough for my needs.

I did go to an introductory concert on the new "Technote" organ about a month ago. I was very impressed with it. I'm really not in the market for an organ either. Simon demo'd it. I'm not very familiar with the Technic's organs but I did feel that the new Technote's organ was geared to owners of Technic's organs. It sounded good, had many features, and seemed to be quite easy to use........I only mention this because Technote's is planning on building keyboards too. Not sure when or what though. I just have been wondering if they might eventually have a keyboard that might be a good progression from the KN7000. Might be something to look forward to.

Marilyn

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#51979 - 09/29/05 08:44 AM Re: I Just ordered the Tyros 2 From Dan O
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I do all my editing in Cakewalk deluxe Pro Audio 9. It is so much simpler then wading through all the windows of a keyboard and wondering if what you just selected is what you want to do
Keyboards come and go but cakewalk/sonar is for ever
BEBOP
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#51980 - 09/29/05 01:33 PM Re: I Just ordered the Tyros 2 From Dan O
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Bebop
here are a few of your own quotes from previous posts about Yamaha ease of use and operating system it is strange how sometimes people can get caught up in their own hypocritical world of fantasy

posted 05-01-2003 03:54 PM

I had a hard drive in the KN3000 and it was super. I moved into the KN6000 and could not get a hard drive that would work. I gave it up. After 4 Technics keyboards I gave them up too and bought the Yamaha PSR9000 and put a hard drive in it and hooked up a SCSI CDRW drive I had in the studio. This is all great and what I wanted the KN6000 to be, but the only problem is that the Yam 9000 is not a Technics. Well, as you might guess or probably heard I am back to playing and recording on the KN6000 again and thinking about a KN7000. (The Yam 9K is resting at present
Bebop



posted 09-28-2003 04:32 PM

I have the KN6000 and after listening to all the bad mouthing about the KN7000 and the sd card system I marched right down town and bought the Yamaha PSR9000. I fought if for about 6 months and when everyone seemed to realize that the problems with the KN7 was them and not the machine, I agreed and went back to town and bought the KN7.
I think I have played the PSR9000 maybe twice since the KN7 came into the studio.
IT WAS DUMB TO BUY IT! I admit it. It is also interesting that the PSR9000 has depreciated almost 60 % in the year I have had it. the KN6 is two plus years old and has depreciated only 1/3 = 33% in over two years. Does this tell you something else.
Tim if you need or want to sell the Kn7 there is a strong market available to you. If you want or need to sell the Yam, oh darn, the used marked it pretty thin and the depreciation is AWESOME!
GET OVER IT!
Learn to love it. You will even know how to properly use it in only a few months and it will do things you never believed. Your Yam will end up sitting and depreciating just like mine
Best to you
Bebop





posted 11-02-2003 09:07 AM

my post is very simple. I have been a musician for 67 years. I have owned a recording studio for many years. I have owned most of the keyboards since 1972. I always buy the top of the line. I have a KN7000 and a Yamaha 9000.
There is no comparison. The 9000 is for sale and it is supposedly a much better board then the tyros. The 9000 has not been used since the KN7000 arrived. We all make mistakes by LISTENING TO OTHERS OPINIONS!!! Do your homework and research before committing to something that might not fit your needs, once you have defined your needs.EOM
BEBOP

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#51981 - 09/29/05 02:45 PM Re: I Just ordered the Tyros 2 From Dan O
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HI JOHNNY,
I do remember posting all those.
Not much has changed. I still have 4 technics boards and play two of them all the time, KN7 and KN2. the KN6 is at rest and the KN800 in storage. I hardly ever play the YAM 9000.
I really want to get a new keyboard this year. I had narrowed down my choices between the Roland G 70, the Korg Paix, and the Yamaha Tyros 2. The more I read, studied and researched these three boards, the more people I talked to that had bought the other two, the easier it came to make my decision for the T-2. I Believe if I quit playing the Technics for awhile I can overcome my inherent resistance to the Yam Operating system. There are many things I like about the Yam OS but again many more I don't like. I think many of those I don't like will be modified into more usable options.
I will definately keep either the KN7000 or the KN2600, but will make that decision after I have had the t-2 for about 6 months. It may be that I will keep both of those Technics and sell the T-2.
Best to you,
Bebop
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#51982 - 09/29/05 03:49 PM Re: I Just ordered the Tyros 2 From Dan O
Marilyn Boissoneault Offline
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I think you'll find the operating system for the Tyros2 is much easier than the operating system you have on your PSR9000. I used to read all the time about the steep learning curve for the 9000. Yamaha updated their OS and the Tyros and PSR3000 are quite easy to operate.

Marilyn

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#51983 - 09/29/05 03:53 PM Re: I Just ordered the Tyros 2 From Dan O
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Thanks Marilyn,
I am VERY happy to hear that. I just gave up on the 9000. It just sits and pouts
Bebop
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#51984 - 09/29/05 05:13 PM Re: I Just ordered the Tyros 2 From Dan O
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If this means anything to you, when I purchased the Yamaha PSR2000 (of which shares nearly the identical OS navigation system as Tyros2) as a followup to my Technics KN5000, I was able to start gigging with it in less than a week. Though I admit, Yamaha's hardware sequencer editing sucks, in all other respects, I feel Yamaha's OS is just as EZ (or easier) to navigate as Technics. For sequencer/midi editing, I concur with Bebop, finding using PG Music PowerTracks or Sonar the best choice. I prefer seeing everything graphically on a 'large screen' monitor than having to press numerous buttons to find sub-menu windows on the much smaller LCD screen of ANY arranger keyboard, both KN7000 and Tyros included. - Scott
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#51985 - 09/30/05 01:25 AM Re: I Just ordered the Tyros 2 From Dan O
Peter Lowden Offline
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Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 367
Loc: England
Been away for a while, really good to read the forum's comments on the new Tyros 2, I see our friend Johnnie C is still laying down the law and trying to disrupt an informative thread (nothing changes)

I own the KN7000 and the Tyros 1 they are both excellent instruments, i've found the OS very different on both machines but i've found it simply a matter of adjusting ones line of thought, you very quickly get used to either OS.

As soon as I heard that Technics were no longer making keyboards I moved on, you have to keep up with technology etc, can't live in the past.

Kind regards to all

Peter

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