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#52406 - 08/23/05 04:44 AM KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Marty Dee Offline
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Registered: 07/07/05
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Loc: The Villages, Fl
As a recent KN7000 owner I'd like to know if someone knows how to move or export some of my KN5000 rythmns into the KN7000. Probably the best place to move them to is under the custom button of the KN7000.

By the way I love this forum as a place to post questions. I saw a post about something going away due to lack of interest, I hope its not this forum.

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#52407 - 08/23/05 05:14 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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kn5000 format loads direct, you just need to copy any 5000 custom rhythms to composer first and save the composer version in the 5000, the rest is straightforward. Load into the 7k, tweak, then copy from composer to custom in the 7k.

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#52408 - 08/23/05 12:35 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Marty Dee Offline
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Registered: 07/07/05
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Loc: The Villages, Fl
Quote:
Originally posted by technicsplayer:
kn5000 format loads direct, you just need to copy any 5000 custom rhythms to composer first and save the composer version in the 5000, the rest is straightforward. Load into the 7k, tweak, then copy from composer to custom in the 7k.


Forgive me as I might be a little dense on this topic as I've never done this, however to perhaps be a little more clear. What I want to copy are some of the original rythmns that come with the KN5000 not custom rythmns that someone created. As an example the KN5000 has a great Shuffleboogie and Shuffle Ballad that are great that came with the KN5000. I'd like to capture them and move them to my KN7000 in the custom button. Is that the same as what you understood? I've never moved anything into the composer before so I'm on thin ice. Thanks for your help.

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#52409 - 08/23/05 01:21 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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it's a shame that the official Technics KN7000 web site has now closed - I made all the styles for free download a long time ago now and they were all available there for quite a few years.

You could do the job yourself by copying the presets to composer, saving them, loading into the 7k then copying to custom.

However it is probably easier if I mail the styles to you in single custom format. You can load these direct to the 7k custom section with the Custom Style Load in the Disk or SD menu. Then save the customs on the 7K.

I'll mail the original 200 styles to you; unzip, the simplest will be to copy to a floppy and load through the menu described above. They will be a 1.8MB attachment.

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#52410 - 08/23/05 02:13 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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unfortunately the email address in your profile fails.

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#52411 - 08/23/05 04:02 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Kenneth Gundersen Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Marty Dee:
By the way I love this forum as a place to post questions. I saw a post about something going away due to lack of interest, I hope its not this forum.



Hi Marty,

I asume you know the http://www.kn7000.net webpage too, right?

/Ken

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#52412 - 08/24/05 06:42 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
RonG Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 42
Loc: Hudson, Florida, USA
I am a recently proud new owner of a KN7000 (newbie). I would like to talk to you pertaining to several items regarding the KN7000. If you would please email your email address to ron@micronglass.com I would like to make you an offer. I WILL NOT SHARE your email address with anyone.

Thank you.

Ron

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#52413 - 08/24/05 06:44 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
RonG Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
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My previous post was for Technicsplayer. SORRY!!

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#52414 - 08/25/05 12:50 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Marty Dee Offline
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Registered: 07/07/05
Posts: 61
Loc: The Villages, Fl
Thanks to all who helped on this matter I've received zipped files with I believe are 150 rythmns from the KN5000. I now need to figure out which of these are the 15 that I want to put onto the KN7000. Additionally Ken I have tried several times to get to the web page you mentioned but cannot connect to it for some reason.
Again thanks to all this is a great BBS for we who are unskilled with the KN7000 at present. Perhaps one day we will be able to help someone else.

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#52415 - 08/25/05 01:26 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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I had to send them in smaller packets to get through as attachments, and wait for you to clear your inbox each time. The last one has just gone.

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#52416 - 08/25/05 01:34 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Marty Dee:
[B] Ken I have tried several times to get to the web page you mentioned but cannot connect to it for some reason.
B]

the official KN7000 website has now closed. http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum25/HTML/003345.html

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#52417 - 08/25/05 03:06 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
dpeisic Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
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Loc: San Deigo, Ca, USA
Technicsplayer hi,

I would love to have also the preset styles from kn5000.

In case it is possible to send those styles to my email as well.

My email address is:

doronpeisic@san.rr.com

Thanks bunch,
Doron
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#52418 - 08/25/05 04:07 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Walt Meyer Offline
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Registered: 10/02/02
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Loc: Silver City, NM USA
Marty,
Check your mailbox - index to KN5000 files sent.
Walt

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#52419 - 08/26/05 12:41 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Kenneth Gundersen Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 97
Loc: Lyngdal in Norway
Marty Dee, the www.KN7000.net webpage works. I don't know why you can access it. Can you try once more?

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#52420 - 08/26/05 12:42 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Kenneth Gundersen Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 97
Loc: Lyngdal in Norway
argh, misspelling:

Wrong: I don't know why you can access it.
Right: I don't know why you can't access it.


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#52421 - 08/26/05 08:07 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Marty Dee Offline
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Registered: 07/07/05
Posts: 61
Loc: The Villages, Fl
For some reason I cannot get to the KN7000.net page. However thanks for the KN5000 rythmn zip files I have them on diskette now and have started to load the ones I'm interested in. I really appreciate the help

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#52422 - 08/26/05 08:29 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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you're welcome

ps I'll arrange for Doron to get them soon too.

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#52423 - 08/27/05 09:01 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
dpeisic Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 165
Loc: San Deigo, Ca, USA
Technicsplayer and all,

This is a confirmation that I did receive the entire 10 zipped files.

Thank you so much for sending to me!!!

Thanks bunch,
Doron
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#52424 - 08/27/05 02:14 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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you're welcome

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#52425 - 09/02/05 10:16 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Kennykay Offline
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Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 16
Loc: London, UK
Mail to Technicsplayer:

Dear Technicsplayer

I was going through the Forum discussions and came across your kind offer to help MartyDee. Please I also own a KN5000 and now a KN7000, and wish to use most of the preset styles of the KN5000 on my KN7000. I should be grateful if you would kindly email to me the original 200 KN5000 preset styles, with advice, please, on how to transfer them to my KN7000. My email address is wisdom2@gmail.com.

Thanks very much for your kind help.

Kennykay

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#52426 - 09/03/05 10:41 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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done

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#52427 - 09/05/05 04:31 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Kennykay Offline
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Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 16
Loc: London, UK
Hi Technicsplayer

Thanks heaps for the KN5000 preset files. They all came through OK.

Kennykay

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#52428 - 09/13/05 05:56 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Kennykay Offline
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Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 16
Loc: London, UK
Technicsplayer & All

Please can someone help me. I used a KN5000 for a few years and now I own a KN7000- and still trying to get a hang of it.

I am trying to ascertain how I can access a particular DSP Effect on the KN7000. The DSP Effect is called 'PEQ+Chorus'.

This effect is available on the KN5000 and I found it very good and useful, but I have tried in vain to locate it on the KN7000. May I know - how do I find it please.

Kennykay

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#52429 - 09/14/05 04:22 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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there are 2 choices:
For a global effect, hold down multi and select parametric equaliser, and hold down chorus and select one.
For a sound only effect, go to sound edit, effect, scroll to parametric eq under sound dsp, and then there are 2 choices to add chorus, either chorus direct on the same page, or on page 2 add a programmable chorus via digital effect.
Any effect can be detail tweaked, saved in effect memory and substituted in the scroll selections instead of the preset variations.

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#52430 - 09/14/05 02:46 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Kennykay Offline
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Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 16
Loc: London, UK
Hello Technicsplayer

Thanks so much for your kind help. I shall try out the options you suggested.

Kennykay

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#52431 - 09/15/05 11:50 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
raytaysandy Offline
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Registered: 08/01/05
Posts: 11
Loc: united kingdom
tell me would this method apply to a conversion from the kn 65000 to the kn 7000, i have tried without success to move styles , raytaysandy@supanet.com
Quote:
Originally posted by technicsplayer:
kn5000 format loads direct, you just need to copy any 5000 custom rhythms to composer first and save the composer version in the 5000, the rest is straightforward. Load into the 7k, tweak, then copy from composer to custom in the 7k.




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#52432 - 09/15/05 11:59 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
raytaysandy Offline
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Registered: 08/01/05
Posts: 11
Loc: united kingdom
[:
[B]Hi Technicsplayer
could you send me the kn65000 rythums to load into my kn7000 , would be gratefull
raytaysandy@supanet.com

.

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#52433 - 09/25/05 08:35 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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done

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#52434 - 10/01/05 07:07 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Kennykay Offline
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Registered: 09/02/05
Posts: 16
Loc: London, UK
I have just started using the KN7000 amd meed help in a few areas.

Firstly, I have problems with loading styles onto the KN7000. I haved got floppy disks that contain styles that compatible with KN7000. Please could someone kindly take me through a step-by-step process of loading the styles into the KN7000 Custom.

Someone had suggested that I would have to load the styles onto the Memory A, B and/or C, then transfer them to the KN7000 Custom. I am still very confused about this. The issue of transferring from Memory A, B or C to Custom confuses me the more hence I need help. My whole idea is to ensure that the styles that I have on floppy disk are transferred to the Custom of KN7000.

The other thing that I discovered is that the Panel Memory load has three banks, A B and C. May I know how many styles can go into each of the A, B or C Banks.

Finally, is it possible to move a style from a particular position in the Custom Memory to another position. That is, say I have a style placed on e.g. Mp. 3 in the Custom, can I move that style to the No. 7 position of the same Custom.

Please help if you know.

Thank you.

Kenny

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#52435 - 10/02/05 04:41 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Bill Norrie Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
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Loc: North Yorkshire UK
Hi Kenny,
What you wish to do, depends on the format of the styles on your floppy disc. They could be in one of two formats : CUSTOM or COMPOSER. To determine in which format the styles have been saved on the disk, insert the disk in the drive, press the 'Load' button to display the disc load screen and select one of the filenames. Look in the box at the right hand side of the screen and you should see details of the content of the selected files.
If there is an entry for 'ALL CUSTOM STYLES' then the styles are in Custom Memory format. In this case, just load the file and up to 20 styles will be loaded into the CUSTOM Memory and you can use them as you would, the normal built-in styles.
If there is no 'ALL CUSTOM STYLES' entry in the box, but there is a 'COMPOSER' entry, then there will be up to three COMPOSER styles present in the selected file. Again, just load the file and the three Composer styles will be transferred to Composer Memories A, B and C. You can access these styles by pressing the extreme right button (MEMORY LOAD)in the lower row of the Rhythm group.

If you wish to carry out style transfers between Built-In, Custom and Composer, there is a written procedure available on my website, which explains how to do this. http://mysite.freeserve.com/willumspages/index.html Go to the Tech Tips Page and download Number 9.

Your question about Panel Memory - Styles are not directly stored in the Panel Memory - they are only stored in Built-in Memory, Custom Memory or Composer Memory. The panel memories only store 'Pointers' to a particular style, in one of the above 'style' memories. Panel Memory has a total of 13 Banks : A, B, C and 1 -10 and each Bank has 8 memory locations. You can store a panel set-up, including a different style, from any of the three style memory locations above, in each of the Panel Memories. Therefore, you can store pointers to 8 x 13 = 104 different styles in total.
Referring to your last question, it is possible to move style positions within the CUSTOM memory, but not directly. You will have to do this via the COMPOSER memory - ie copy the two Custom styles to Composer memory - say A and B and then copy them back to Custom in reverse order, so that original style No.3 becomes No.7 and original style No.7 becomes No 3. The question is, 'Why would you want to move style positions within the Custom memory?' Each style in the Custom memory is directly accessible at any time, irrespective of its location.

You can of course save your Custom / Composer styles to SD Card.

There is also an option available in the SD Tools Menu, to Copy an entire floppy disk directly to your SD Card.

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Willum

[This message has been edited by Bill Norrie (edited 10-02-2005).]
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After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is Music.
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( especially when the music is played on a KN7000....)

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#52436 - 10/02/05 06:45 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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you are far better off using single customs to re-arrange the custom section rather than composer.

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#52437 - 10/02/05 04:46 PM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
Bill Norrie Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 2330
Loc: North Yorkshire UK
I agree with you Alec, that the single Custom load option from disk, can be used to overwrite the two styles in question, assuming the disk is either in the drive or easily located.

However, if all the styles are already present in Custom Memory, as is the case stated above, then surely it is just as easy to use the Composer for swapping the style positions?

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Willum
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After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is Music.
Aldous Huxley
( especially when the music is played on a KN7000....)

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#52438 - 10/03/05 04:09 AM Re: KN5000 Rythmns to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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no, you're not limited to disk, the sd transfer is as fast as the panel operation, and are not limited to having 3 transfers in limbo while you decide where to overwrite things, thus much easier to rearrange multiple all customs where duplications may be required for specific play orders, you do not risk losing the registration, user sound and user pad information which could happen with a wrong panel push, finally since Kenny is confused about composer to custom transfer in the first place, it’s an instant fix avoiding that problem.

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