If a song is sequenced with the new KN7000 using a sound from one of the expansion cards, and the song is then played on a KN7000 without the expansion cards, does the sequencer pick a closely compatible sound or does it just not play?

Thanks

Larry

Hi Larry, Not quite sure what would happen. I've got EW03 and EW04 in my KN7000 but never use these voices if I'm going to share the files. I suppose a way round it would be to copy the voice into Sound Memory without actually editing it, use that version in the song and then include the Sound Memory option when saving the song.
I suppose there are two ways to check out the effect - record a song with the expansion voice and email it to someone with a KN7000 without expansion and see what happens, or, record a song and then remove the expansion cards and play it back on your own KN.

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Willum

I'm afraid copying to sound edit will be unsuccessful.

I use many user programmed sounds from EW samples, they will come out the wrong octave and innappropriate to the mix generally without the EW with default samples. I also generally use user programmed drums from EW and these can be silent without the card. So generally will not work, at least for my working methods - that's why we have mp3

Hi Larry;

That is one of the drawbacks of the expansion boards. If the person you send the song to does not have the board in their unit , the sound is distorted.

I have 3 boards some which have excellent sounds. I love the "Solo Soprano" in the last board but if I want the songs I recorded
using it to send to my friends . I make a CD of the songs and send it to them.

No problem for I enjoy making CDs.

Alex

When it comes to Expansion Boards; Where can I find more info on exactly what they include, costs, and how to install them.

Thanks SeeYa
Larry Hawk

for some EW details try the Technics page on http://www.colbecks-music.com. Installing is no problem, a few screws on the underside and carefully plug them in.

Alec, Much as I hate to disagree with you, I have managed to successfully duplicate the sounds from the EW03/EW04 cards into Sound Memory and then use them from there. I tried this by copying a bank of 20 sounds from the EW04 card to Sound Memories,and then copying the Sound Memories out to Floppy disc. I recorded some scales onto PC, using the original EW voices for later comparison. I then removed the expansion cards, 'Performance Initialised' and loaded the Sound Memories back from floppy. Comparing the voices now in Sound Memories, with the originals recorded earlier, all the sounds were identical. I then recorded a short sequence in Easy Record,using the voices in Sound Memories and sent this to another KN7000 owner, who did not have the expansion cards. I asked him to play and check the sequence against a list of the voices used in the sequence. He reported that everything was OK. He then recorded a short sequence, using these voices from his Sound Memory, and emailed it back to me. With the expansion cards still removed from my KN, the sequence played OK. I then switched off and re-fitted the cards and compared the voices returned to me, (now in Sound Memories) against the originals from the expansion cards - no apparent difference.
I may have been lucky in my choice of voices - I just took a random sample of 20 voices and used them. However, I have most of the EW voices on disc so can do some more comparisons.

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Willum

Woowww Willum,
Cees

Hi Willum,
probably the one that would test it, would be the soprano voice on the 4th card or some of the looped voices.
Piano's, guitars, strings might be deceiving to the ear?
If you're right, wow.

best wishes
Rikki

you just chose some favourable voices Willum, that's all.

I can play you my sequences using the widest variety of EW voices, both edited and particularly comprehensively used in composers and pads which sound completely wrong when played without the EW cards, with drums missing and all sorts of random effects, it was the first thing I noticed when reviewing the first 7k, and has not changed since.

As Rikki says use some specialist drums, vocals and strings and see how far you get. If the sounds are identical what on earth is the point of buying the cards if you cannot hear the clear differences in the samples?