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#5311 - 06/14/02 03:33 PM
Re: future of rock?
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Registered: 10/13/01
Posts: 37
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Rock is excellent. I can't stand the loop based dance/trance/techo garbage. Nothing worse than listening to a 6 minute loop centered around a drum and bass groove. All of this candy cutter bubble gum pop crap from Spears and the gang has got to go as well. Actually, it's already on the way out. Rock has many forms, personally I think it's at it's best when it's a simple, powerful, song structured so you can tap your feet and sing along with it. If you look at the big picture of rock it is coming back big time. Right now it's at a more pop oriented structure. (Nickleback, Puddle of mud, etc.) Which is fine, that's some good stuff. Most listeners go through a variety of styles, but as you get older almost everyone comes back to listen to some rock tunes. When was the last time anyone over 21 listened to a Brateny Spears or Ricky Martin song? You're only a young adult for about 25 years of your life, think about the kind of music you will listen to for the next 40 years of your life after you turn 25. When you're in your 30's and above it's cool to tap your feet, sing along with some classic tunes, it ain't cool to dance to a bubble gum pop song. Sorry...
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#5313 - 06/21/02 06:38 AM
Re: future of rock?
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Registered: 06/10/02
Posts: 14
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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The best modern rock out there (in my opinion) is that which has a traditional, cool, 70s influence, really influenced by lou reed, and the velvet underground, that kind of stuff, but which has incorporated new technology, especially (non-cheesy sounding) electronic sounds for texture and colour. Definitely guitar based, and riff-based, but with out wanky, over the top wailing solos in the style of virtuoso rock or cock rock. I'm talking about bands like the Dandy Warhols, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, the Jesus and Mary Chain etc, even Queens of the Stone Age. The fact that the songs are reasonably simple add to their appeal, for me. It means everyone can relate to them, unlike esoteric guitar solos. I'm always going to be in love with the original early velvets stuff though, it just can't be beaten.
Experimental rock, such as radiohead is also really good, but on a different, more cerebral level. This stuff isn't for everyone.
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#5320 - 07/15/02 04:17 AM
Re: future of rock?
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Yes kazza is good, imesh too as well as that one client proggie that musiccity owns (forgot the damn name of it!) I still think WinMX rules (now @ v.3.22) though. The client proggie is for the control freaks in us Topic: future of rock? Well, the genre will always be, along with its long line of subcatagories. No keyboardist enjoys bunk timbre and / or envelope of incapable devices. WARNING, FOLLOWING SECTION OF POSTING IS EXTREMELY BORING. The plucked string is a helluvalot more than just tricky enveloping, when the string is sounded many elements and stages affect it's sound. Of mechanical theory and physics, there is no such thing as a tuned guitar for many reasons. When the string is first plucked (or picked), it plays at it's sharpest frequency until it finds its divisional resonant point where it's dynamics extend the longest until the vibration is not forcefull enough to hold the packeted or quantum groupings of vibrations, then finally leaving the entire string vibrating whole and singular. The tension of the string itself is what causes the string to diminish vibration. While all these events are going on, the pitch itself goes moreso flatter until (theoretically speaking) vibration has halted completely. The previously said events are all discreet to one another and controlled by the strings properties, it's outside enviorment, and the method used to vibrate the string. All the above creates the frequency and it's dynamic envelope of pitch and amplitude. That is why it is so darn cotton pickin hard to accurately duplicate a guitar's sound, only emulations so far, but maybe someday soon. WARNING, FOLLOWING SECTION OF POSTING IS REGULAR BORING, (bad, but not quite as bad) The best puesdo guitar I have heard to date is Roland Corp.'s COSM technology. We have to shake our heads and say "yeah, well...what's up then?" Well what's up is a minor glitch that the electronic device that produces the COSM signal does not bear the properties of an electronic synthesizer. It would be better classed as a lightning fast responsive controller / sampler-player combo. Another thing that does not help us is that the controller is not a keyboard, its a guitar. For the keyboardist that does not know the fretboard, applied COSM for the keyboardist is about as useful as the square root of zero, give or take a 60Hz humm. I call COSM this error because it's original thought of design was for a keyboardist-synthist to be able to jamm out some electric guitar sounds. After finding that they (Roland) did not have a method to modulate the sound model properly with the correct envelope, they were forced to use a guitar as a controller. It resulted in the reciprical of their intention (of course they would never admit to that). Instead of the synthist being able to pump power chords, they wound up with a guitarist that could arpeggiate and trigger control and modulation functions via MIDI OUT. WARNING, THE FOLLOWING SECTION OF POSTING IS NOT MUCH BETTER, YOUR EYES MAY HURT BY NOW. THIS IS NORMAL. You know, it's a shame cawse the flippin thing sounds great. All that great modeled sound, and there's no market for it. I know one thing, no music store sells more VG's than they do Guitar/Amp combos of equal price. I think it's an analog digital thing. It would be safe to say that more keyboardists have a home computer and e-mail, than say.....drummers and guitarists. This is no downtalking by any means LOL I am never less than amazed of what I have seen drummers (guitarists too) do, have, and come up with, plus they get all the chicks of course. MORPH!
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