Wow Alec,
that is truly amazing. I'll have to try & chase your book down, I definitely need a bit more help on on this feature.
For the time being , I've sort of just left it set to it's default, which may not be giving me correct results.

I'll have to print out your post, and run through it again. Love a challenge, keeps the ol' brain ticking.

The other brand keyboards definately do theirs differently.

Roland uses separate tracks for maj , min, maj7 chords for it's style parts
Korg used to have something like up to 5 or 6 tracks for chord variations
and Yamaha works differently again.

By the way thank you, I worked out how to change the intro's & endings to the one's I want in the EMC program. Still can't work out how to save so that I can edit it in Cubase , though. I've hit a blankwall on that matter.

best wishes
Rikki


[QUOTE]Originally posted by technicsplayer:
[B]Thanks, Rikki.
Many discussions were had about the 7k book but I was of the opinion that so many 6/65k

Hi Rikki,
well it was only outlined because harmony theory was really outside the remit for the intended readership.

you can input Steinberg Styletrax by changing group input to software arranger in the 32 bit version, but that input group has disappeared from the latest update. I believe the save was mentioned as the next module update, but tyros, pa80 etc conversion took precedence first for release, so mail EMC to be sure of status, it depends on the version.

Thank you Alec for clarifying, I was starting to think I was going tottery, as I just plain couldn't find it. (I've got 1.97)

I'll keep an eye out for the next update.

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by technicsplayer:
[B]Hi Rikki,

you can input Steinberg Styletrax by changing group input to software arranger in the 32 bit version, but that input group has disappeared from the latest update. I believe the save was mentioned as the next module update, but tyros, pa80 etc conversion took precedence first for release,

the styleworks/freestyle/cubase styletrax module in group input was there in 1.7x, but disappeared in the meantime, somewhere between then and 1.97 which just has the keyboard input module

Hi Alex,
I think I'll still keep doing any yamaha styles I decide to convert via my xg works sequencer and seq to composer method ( or at least till emc bring back the save as midifile option.

I decided to test how well the style convert programs worked on a particular psr waltz style I've been working on using seq to composer. Both the EMC & the KN7 style convert disk ( I've got the one that does the latest styles), botched the Minor Intro's & Endings. They don't appear to be able to convert melodic phrases properly to a minor key. They also didn't do the drums correctly ( it had brushes in it.)

Even so,still a handy program to have.


best wishes
Rikki

Hi.

One way os another it looks like Technics are the brand
that it is most difficult to convert to and from.
Not between the different Technics models, because then
most of the settings match reasonable good.
Cross-converting between Yamaha, Solton/Ketron, and the
other seems to give a better result to start with.
I.e. as when convert Yam to Ketron, the result are not
bad, and also from Roland to Ketron do the quick converted
filses sound better before editing than when convert to KN.
Maybe the result are similiar between others too, but that
I don't know.
I guess this is because the Technics files are in a more
complex format?
Anyway, the EMC is a good tool, and to work with the stuff
and have all that options on a PC screen as well as the KN
linked via Midi to listen when edit, make the result to
continue editing on the keyboard a lot more easy.

Happy converting and playing
GJ

Hi Rikki,
the minors will not work because the emc and disks are still working in 5000 format which has no composer slots to save them, so manual work is needed until 6 or 7k format is supported and the function implememted. So even the midi edit route will not help, only in the respect that you could change the thirds, save twice, and use single composer load to place the minors in their correct position. Until then seq to composer is probably the easiest route.
regards

I think Gunnar makes a good point when he says the technics styles are more complex, and I tried to explain this in chord modify change; how as a broad generalisation the technics auto chord system can handle more harmonically rich arrangements within an automatic environment without clashes, where other systems cannot necessarily have such a wide range of allowed added notes.

Hi Rikki,
Please put me on your interested list for styles.
I’m not in the same league as you, Alex and other members on
the forum when it comes to the intricacies of the KN7000 or writing about them,
but because I learn so much from members, I thought I would try and
make a contribution by telling how I go about making new styles,
from the great styles in the KN7000.
1. Go to Rhythm Group and select Jazz & Swing
2. Select ‘Fast Bebop’ style Rhythm 110
3. Go to ‘ Variation’ 2 for the drums & bass
4. Go to ‘ Program Menus’
5. Select ‘ Compose’
6. Select ‘Pattern Copy’ page one
7. In the ‘From Box’ you should have Group: Jazz & Swing, Rhythm: Fast Bebop: Pattern Vari 2 in the ‘To Box’ You should have Memory: ‘A’ Pattern: Change to Vari 2
8. Press OK. Fast Bebop style should be in memory ‘A’
9. Go to home page ‘Mute Bass and Drums’, as these are the two rhythms to keep
10. Go to Jazz & Swing and go through the Styles till you come to a n accompaniment in a style that you would like to add to Fast Bebop bass & drums in ‘Memory A’ i.e. Slow Jazz ACP 3 Variation 2 ‘Vocals’
11. Go to Program Menus
12. Select Compose
13. Select Pattern Copy
14. Select ‘Page’ 2 you have a ‘From Box’ & a ‘To Box’ {the to box on the right relates to A,B,C, in Memory} in the to box at the top you should have ‘A- Vari 2 PATTERN’ which can be rearranged by with the ‘MEM’ arrows
15. Go to ‘Part’ under the white arrow and move the ‘red box’ up to ACCOMP 1
16. Go to the from box where it says ACCOMP 1and change it to ACCOMP 3 with the arrows at the bottom of the column. Reading from left you should have in the From box Group: Jazz & Swing Rhythm: Slow Jazz Pattern : Vari 2 & ACCOM 3 in the To box you should have Part: ACCOMPI 1, FUNC: if it’s ‘KEEP’ or ‘CLEAR’ you ‘MUST’ change it to “COPY” with the arrows at the bottom of the column, only then press ‘OK’
17. Go to home page
18. Go to memory ‘A’
19. Go to Home Page un-mute ACP 1and you should have ‘Vocals’ in ACP 1
20. un-mute drums & bass, and you should hear drums, bass, and vocals.
21. Repeat the above for ACP 2, ACP3,ACP4 & 5 for your new style, all in the same variation.
22. You can now start on the other 3 variation. You can choose any style to start with and you can choose any variation in any style to put in your first style. the permutations are enormous. I believe there are short cuts which I have not found yet, but I shall keep trying. Have fun, All Best, Fred UK.

Thanks Guys,
for the time being I'll probably do just that.
best wihes
Rikki


[QUOTE]Originally posted by technicsplayer:
[B]Hi Rikki,
Until then seq to composer is probably the easiest route.
regards

Hi Fred,
wow, I'm going to have to print that up so that I can try it. Unfortunately my main computer & my kn7 are in different parts of the house. Great how everyone finds their own way of doing things,

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Retired:
[B]Hi Rikki,
Please put me on