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#55582 - 03/02/03 01:44 PM
Re: volume drop on rhythm
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Mally, while I don't have a kn7k, I do know how these things work on a kn6k and they are probably the same. Your volume levels are independent of each other for the left hand and the right hand, until you save (set) an instrument setting in panel memory. Depending on whether you are in normal or expand mode will have an effect also, but the volume level of the rhythm (left hand) may have been different for one panel memory than it was for the second, or third, or forth. For a soft sounding instrument one would consider a softer sound in the background, than for a trumpet, for instance, where you would want a somewhat louder rhythm background. When you change the volume of a background instrument, it will stay the same for all four variations, but when you switch to another panel memory, the original volume settings will reappear. These would have to be reset and saved using the set button, then on to all the other panel memories while using the same procedure. Time consuming perhaps, but necessary. I generally use normal mode for this operation, or while I set up a rhythm pattern, but when I get ready to record, I sometimes switch to expand mode for use with a foot switch, and let the switch do all the work. In any case, the keyboard only reads the settings it has, and responds the way it was programmed to do. I would advise getting the manual out and redoing each step with doublechecks, and you will probably find you forgot one small important detail. Good luck.
[This message has been edited by Bud Whipple (edited 03-02-2003).]
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#55583 - 03/02/03 02:02 PM
Re: volume drop on rhythm
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I have also noticed intermittant APC changes on KN7000 without any changes of variations, using native rythms, and no expression pedal. I have had the board long enough to attribute this fluctuation to something, and there is nothing that prompts it, at least not from a user standpoint.
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#55585 - 03/02/03 02:19 PM
Re: volume drop on rhythm
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Bernie, you didn't say if there were no changes at all being made, only that you didn't change variations that could have triggered a settings change. If it's strictly a hands-off situation, then you probably have a valid reason to cart the keyboard back to the dealer. I had a similar problem with my first kn6k, and no problems at all with the second one. Murpheys law, right? Even with onboard patterns, changes can be programmed in with panel memory switches using msa, for example, and Technics does like to mix things up with the styles at times. I suppose the more bells and whistles we get, the more problems that are likely to occur.
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#55586 - 03/03/03 02:39 AM
Re: volume drop on rhythm
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Hi Bud Your right, I didn't say so. but.It is totally a hands off situation, and I suppose or hope that it is somehow programming fluke and not a glitch in the OS software.
I will try and track this before I jump the gun and make hasty assumtions. The few times this has happened, I raised the APC back to the original level, maybe three notches, and resaved. I always use extended mode.
Yes, the 7000 is quite complex and like Windows or any other application, there is bound to be some bugs, hopefully covered in some future update.
For me,however, the 7000 is 99.9% great and have great faith that it is as dependable as my old 5000 was.
Bernie
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#55589 - 03/03/03 09:05 AM
Re: volume drop on rhythm
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Somewhat related to this problem, I have noticed that when playing back a sequence, whilst viewing the normal sequencer screen, if I hit either the 'EXIT' or 'PLAY' button to display the Home screen, the APC volume sometimes increases. There is a tie-up between the physical APC/Sequencer Volume control and the APC 'Slider' control on the Home screen. If you move the Physical Volume control, you will see the Home screen APC 'Slider' also moves. This would suggest to me, that unlike a normal volume control, the APC/Sequencer control is not just an audio fader - but a type of digital control into one of the microprocessors in the KN. So it may be that some kind of electrical disturbance could result in the APC volume changing. It seems that APC volume is determined by the last of these two controls, to be moved. If the Physical volume is set to maximum and then the APC Home screen slider set to say about 50, start a style playing and then carefully reduce the Physical volume and you will hear a sudden jump to the level determined by the Physical volume control. As Roger has pointed out, I always leave the Physical volume at maximum and control the APC level using the Home screen APC control. This setting can be stored in Panel Memory and may be recalled as normal. However, the Panel Memory must be in Expand Mode for this to work. Strangely enough, although there is an option in the Expand mode to turn on/off storing the accomp/Bass Volume, it makes no difference whether it is set on or off - as long as Expand mode is selected, the APC volume levels can be controlled within panel memories. Even if every parameter in the Expand mode is set to off, the result is the same - memory recall of APC volume works OK. Incidentally, I also tried this on my KN6000 and it's just the same. I would suggest that you try setting the Physical APC/Sequencer control to maximum and use the Home screen control for APC level and see if the problem still exists. Just my two-pennyworth...... ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif) ------------------ Willum
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