![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#57321 - 03/12/03 01:54 PM
MIDI PLAYBACK
|
Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5515
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
|
Would someone please help me with the answer as to why My R1,R2, and LH change as the midi files change in a medley e.g. .
I want to set up my 7000 with one setup and not have it change unless I change it. In the same vein, I would like to set up several combinations for use with different files, and store them in a bank or somewhere.
Thank you
Bernie
_________________________
pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#57322 - 03/12/03 02:31 PM
Re: MIDI PLAYBACK
|
Member
Registered: 01/24/02
Posts: 163
|
Bernie,
If you are using prerecorded midis from the internet, you will need to rearrange the tracks on the midi so tracks one and two handle the melody and track 3 handles the bass. If there is no melody for track 2, leave this track out of the midi so your tracks will run: 1,3,4,etc. This can be done with midi software. Then when you load the midi into the keyboard, just mute tracks one, two, and three. What is happening with the volume changes is that the midi tracks are being told what to do inside of the midi program. If you mute the tracks, the midi program will not control them. I hope this helps. If it's not clear, just post again.
Peter
PS. Midis from the internet come all messed up and need to be remixed before using on the keyboard.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#57323 - 03/13/03 03:18 AM
Re: MIDI PLAYBACK
|
Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5515
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
|
Hi Peter
Thank you for replying. Some midi's do this, some don't. I see what you are saying. but don't have the software (I don't think),nor the knowledge to manipulate tracks. However, I am willing to get into it.
If I know what software I need, I will get it.
Thanks again
Bernie ps I bought "Midi Quest" some time ago, but it does not support Technics, but maybe it doesn't matter with midi.
_________________________
pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#57325 - 03/13/03 08:35 AM
Re: MIDI PLAYBACK
|
Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5515
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
|
Thanks, Peter, I'll give it a go. Bernie
_________________________
pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#57327 - 03/13/03 12:57 PM
Re: MIDI PLAYBACK
|
Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5515
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
|
That is exactly what I meant. Thank you very much. Sorry I wasn't clearer, but that got it.
Bernie
_________________________
pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#57330 - 03/14/03 03:46 AM
Re: MIDI PLAYBACK
|
Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5515
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
|
I realize that NX is superior, and ,by the way, I quess it is the default mode, as I had to switch it back to GM2 at bootup, but I have to give up something at my low level of expertise I quess. After I changed some of the files back to GM2 from NX ,this solves the problem,I think.
What I envision is a bank of setups where I may have different Left,R1,and R2 instruments, and also other instruments pre-chosen.If I have a country song e.g., I want to go to #3, which has R1-Steel,R2-sax,etc., but if I want a piano, I want the right piano to be in place, since I don't have time to fiddle with it on the fly.
The problem is that nothing remains the same, and I never know what to expect.
As it is now, when I hit a bank number, the sequencer gets involved and changes the tempo to whatever is saved. I don't want to involve the sequencer except to have it play it's GM2 designated backing part, at least until I get more proficient at manipulating tracks.
_________________________
pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#57331 - 03/14/03 06:48 AM
Re: MIDI PLAYBACK
|
Senior Member
Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 3319
|
the first method will work fine for direct play medleys, where you want to mute the melody and play any conductor voice of your choice instead. If you want to use panel memories for the conductor voices just turn off part 1-16, tempo, etc etc down the list in the filter to stop these changing the things you don't want changed in the midi file.
If you want to change voices on the fly in direct play or from sequencer, use the mixer.
If you want to save midis with banks of panel memories preprogrammed with either sound changes in the midi tracks, or with preprogrammed conductor voices independent of the midi tracks this can be done too, it all depends on specifying what you want to do.
the simplest example:
initialise. load midi. save panel mem 1. play the midi and change the lead voice in the mixer. save pan mem 2. stop, sequencer reset, press pan mem 1. save technics sequencer, pan mem and current panel only.
initialise again (to prove it works). load your midi and play it. any time you want to change to your pre-programmed alternative melody voice just press pan mem 2.
if you want to include conductor parts, then follow a combination of the two methods. If you want to use conductor parts from panel memory but leave the midi backings unchanged this can also be done. The exact method depends on whether you want to direct play, or medley from the sequencer.
It is feasible to change all 16 parts of the midi from panel memory, your idea of a blanket setup would not work for many midi files, because you don't know what you are changing to what - you can't change piano with sustain pedal to trombone for instance - you need to choose your instruments for each song, or sort banks of songs with compatible orchestrations for each track.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#57332 - 03/14/03 08:36 AM
Re: MIDI PLAYBACK
|
Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5515
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
|
Alec
Thank you for the time on the reply. I am beginning to see that panel memories, by nature, have to include things like tempo,volume,etc.
It will take me a bit to try out your instructions. I naively thought I could have panel memories with different combinations of R1,R2, and left to bring up by a touch of a button without interfering with the midi track in any way.
In other words,7000 instruments with reverb alone, even, playing along side of the midi track. Just like I have my laptop playing tracks into the 7000 sometimes,but ,I want to store them on SD, with at least the GM2 quality of sound on the 7000.
_________________________
pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#57334 - 03/14/03 09:40 AM
Re: MIDI PLAYBACK
|
Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5515
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
|
Thank you Alec, I really appreciate your help.
Bernie
_________________________
pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
|
|