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#62125 - 07/17/02 01:53 AM Re: the KN7000: Ergonomics !
technicsplayer Offline
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I already answered the question. The friction lock is similar to a laptop screen in that the screen can stay in any position you leave it. It is not identical to a laptop screen because a laptop screen is thin and light and cannot be pushed hard. The 7000 panel is heavy and an inch thick. The force to press buttons is much less than the force of the friction lock, so you can press the buttons at virtually any angle without any reaction feel from the panel. The display is independantly hinged within the panel for further fine tuning of the view angle.

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#62126 - 07/17/02 01:30 PM Re: the KN7000: Ergonomics !
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Dan Hanson 'pointed out' the possibly that the KN7000's Music Stand may be utilized "as a way to stabilize the panel or maybe the panel stabilizes the
music holder"? What do you guys think? - Scott

Pic of the KN7000 with music stand: http://www.musikstudio-witten.de/KN_7000/KN7000_Fotos/25Foto20TaiyoJuni2002.htm
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#62127 - 07/17/02 01:53 PM Re: the KN7000: Ergonomics !
technicsplayer Offline
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what I think?... in all previous models the hinge up part has not even touched the music stand.

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#62128 - 07/18/02 03:05 PM Re: the KN7000: Ergonomics !
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With all the speculation going on re the 7000, does anyone know for sure the number of audio outputs on the back? Is it only a left/right stereo output, or is there more? I couldn't tell from the photos.
Larry

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#62129 - 07/18/02 09:36 PM Re: the KN7000: Ergonomics !
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Hi Larry,

From what I can make out, after attempting to blow up the pic more in Photoshop:

KN7000 Rear View (audio inputs/outputs: from left to right):

1) Mic input
2) Line IN (right/mono)
3) Line IN (left)
4) Aux IN (right/mono)
5) Aux IN (left)
6) Sub (or line?) OUT 2
7) Sub (or line?) OUT 1
8) Main OUT (right/mono)
9) Main OUT (left)

I assume that the Main OUTS are used for sending the primary 'main mix' out of the KB as stereo audio. I'm speculating that the Sub OUT 1 and 2 would be used if you wanted to send your vocals or a specific track(s) such as drums or bass, out independently. Perhaps someone who knows for sure can clarify.

I like the KN7000's feature of offering 2 stereo (Line & Aux) inputs.
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#62130 - 07/21/02 04:13 PM Re: the KN7000: Ergonomics !
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Quote:
Originally posted by Graham UK:
My early Yamaha PSR6100 & PSR6300 keyboards were designed with lid \ panel exactly like the KN7000, so this approach is far from a new idea. Graham


Here' a pic of the Yamaha PSR6300 (circa 1986) with folding panel/lid:

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#62131 - 07/21/02 05:27 PM Re: the KN7000: Ergonomics !
technicsplayer Offline
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that panel was very loosely hinged and rested back just by gravity alone. If you let go while closing just past the vertical it would fall with a crash. The 6100 was metal, by the 6300 it had turned into plastic.
I rememeber the music stand as folding into the top edge of the panel and being very flimsy indeed!
Ah! memories, those machines were so cool in their day, now they must sound awful. They were my first 'serious' keyboards

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#62132 - 07/21/02 06:37 PM Re: the KN7000: Ergonomics !
Marilyn Boissoneault Offline
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Scottyee, thanks for posting that pictures. That PSR 6300 was my first keyboard and sure brings back some good memories.

However the memories aren't quite good enough for me to want to give up my KN6000 and go back to it!!!

Marilyn

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#62133 - 07/22/02 07:15 AM Re: the KN7000: Ergonomics !
manorcourt1991 Offline
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Registered: 07/17/02
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Loc: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:
Hi Larry,

From what I can make out, after attempting to blow up the pic more in Photoshop:

KN7000 Rear View (audio inputs/outputs: from left to right):

1) Mic input
2) Line IN (right/mono)
3) Line IN (left)
4) Aux IN (right/mono)
5) Aux IN (left)
6) Sub (or line?) OUT 2
7) Sub (or line?) OUT 1
8) Main OUT (right/mono)
9) Main OUT (left)

I assume that the Main OUTS are used for sending the primary 'main mix' out of the KB as stereo audio. I'm speculating that the Sub OUT 1 and 2 would be used if you wanted to send your vocals or a specific track(s) such as drums or bass, out independently. Perhaps someone who knows for sure can clarify.

I like the KN7000's feature of offering 2 stereo (Line & Aux) inputs.


Hi Scott
My attempt to decipher the audio in/out connectors basically agrees with yours.
I had assumed that the Sub out jacks provided a filtered low pass output for use with a sub woofer.
The other back panel connectors appear to be
1. Video out
2. USB
3. MIDI Thru
4. MIDI Out
5. MIDI In/Bass pedal
6. Switch for 5.
7. Expression Pedal
8. Foot Switch 2
9. Foot Switch 1
10. Foot controller.

Most of the front panel controls appear to equate to those on the 6000/6500 but does anyone know what the elongated orange buttons are - one on the lest above the Style arranger/varation buttons and the other on the right above the 3 button cluster for Favourites/custom panel etc.
Also there are now four buttons above the pads as against 3 on the 6000/6500. Any ideas on what the extra one does?

Cheers
Len

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#62134 - 07/22/02 01:38 PM Re: the KN7000: Ergonomics !
Bob Hendershot Offline
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Registered: 12/02/99
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Loc: Johnson City, TN USA
I am curious to know if the Technics Expression pedal (SZ-E2) and the Foot Controller (SZ-FC2) that I use with my KN5000 will work with the KN7000. I feel pretty certain that the Yamaha piano type sustain pedals that I use for Foot Switches 1 and 2 will work. It wouldn't make sense to change that circuitry.

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