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#62168 - 12/13/06 03:15 AM
Re: KN7000 Soprano voice EXB 4
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Hi Peter,
I haven't recorded this, but for me the Soprano Soloist on the EW-04 was one of the few real disappointments on the KN7000. It is actually a composite of 3 different voices as follows: C-2 to C#3, Boys Aah, from Bank Y (EW-04 board) D3 to A4, Girls Aah, from Bank G (KN7000) A#4 to G8, Vib. Female Aah, from Bank Y (EW-04 board) The break points are very obvious and for me completely destroy the illusion of a real soprano. Editing the sound to try and provide a smooth transition did little to improve the situation. This is one voice which unfortunately I must admit doesn't come anywhere near the equivalent provided on the Roland Atelier organs.
Len
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#62169 - 12/13/06 06:55 AM
Re: KN7000 Soprano voice EXB 4
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Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 367
Loc: England
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Originally posted by manorcourt1991: Hi Peter,
I haven't recorded this, but for me the Soprano Soloist on the EW-04 was one of the few real disappointments on the KN7000. It is actually a composite of 3 different voices as follows: C-2 to C#3, Boys Aah, from Bank Y (EW-04 board) D3 to A4, Girls Aah, from Bank G (KN7000) A#4 to G8, Vib. Female Aah, from Bank Y (EW-04 board) The break points are very obvious and for me completely destroy the illusion of a real soprano. Editing the sound to try and provide a smooth transition did little to improve the situation. This is one voice which unfortunately I must admit doesn't come anywhere near the equivalent provided on the Roland Atelier organs.
Len Hi Len, Just goes to prove how we all hear things differently, I always thought it was superb! in fact I remember trying to get the EXB 4 for my KN7000 and couldn't find one, I even telephoned several shops inc Whitley Bay Organs, who had many boards but not one with the Soprano voice, and if they did it was almost double the price of the others. Still hoping someone can come up with a recording using to me anyway an incredible voice. Kind regards Peter
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#62174 - 12/16/06 07:39 AM
Re: KN7000 Soprano voice EXB 4
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Registered: 06/28/01
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Hi Peter, I do not have the EXB4, but a while back Alex Green sent me an MP3 using the Soprano Voice. Here is his Full Version of Ava Maria (3MB) And here is a Short Demo Version of Ave Maria (270kb) IMO, The Voices on the KN-7000 are unmatched by any keyboard. The EXP4 is even better. It's just incredible. I hope I helped you all out. Anyway, it's not a bad deal to reminisce with Alex and the good 'ol KN-7000 days ------------------ Larry SynthZone Frapper
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#62177 - 12/16/06 02:00 PM
Re: KN7000 Soprano voice EXB 4
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Registered: 07/17/02
Posts: 235
Loc: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Originally posted by manorcourt1991: Hi All,
Peter, firstly I must apologise for sidetracking your original request. I have attempted to remedy this by sending you some sample files (nowhere near as well played as Alex Green's Ave Maria).
Alec, yes it should have read Boys Bah, a late night blunder on my part. I had never intended to imply that any singer would have a six octave range . Most of the melodies for which I have attempted to use these voices fit within the range C3 to C5 and cover both break points in the Soprano Soloist voice. When necessary I usually avoid the lower break point by transposition or editing the voice, but I still find the upper break point somewhat disturbing. Obviously others don't, and yes I am aware that singers do have a natural break point in their range. Finally it was never my intention to denigrate the performance of the actual singer or any of those whose involved in producing this sound. I felt that there was room for improvement here and had originally hoped that it might have been revisited and that, at some future date, we might have been treated to voices for the full range of opera singers. Alas with the demise of the Panasonic Musical Instrument Division this was not to be. I still derive great pleasure from my KN7000 and will always appreciate the efforts of all involved in creating such a wonderful instrument. For me it still stands head and shoulders above any recent offerings from other manufacturers and I hope to enjoy it for many years to come.
Len Oops! I pressed the wrong button and and so the edited version of thsi appears along with the original. [This message has been edited by manorcourt1991 (edited 12-16-2006).]
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#62178 - 12/16/06 10:33 PM
Re: KN7000 Soprano voice EXB 4
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Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 367
Loc: England
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Originally posted by manorcourt1991: Hi All,
Peter, firstly I must apologise for sidetracking your original request. I have attempted to remedy this by sending you some sample files (nowhere near as well played as Alex Green's Ave Maria).
Alec, yes it should have read Boys Bah, a late night blunder on my part. I had never intended to imply that any singer would have a six octave range . Most of the melodies for which I have attempted to use these voices fit within the range C3 to C5 and cover both break points in the Soprano Soloist voice. When necessary I usually avoid the lower break point by transposition or editing the voice, but I still find the upper break point somewhat disturbing. Obviously others don't, and yes I am aware that singers do have a natural break point in their range. Finally it was never my intention to denigrate the performance of the actual singer or any of those whose involved in producing this sound. I felt that there was room for improvement here and had originally hoped that it might have been revisited and that some future date we might have been treated to voices for the full range of opera singers. Alas with the demise of the Panasonic Musical Instrument Division this was not to be. I still derive great pleasure from my KN7000 and will always appreciate the efforts of all involved in creating such a wonderful instrument. For me it still stands head and shoulders above any recent offerings from other manufacturers and I hope to enjoy it for many years to come.
Len Hi Len, Thank you so much Len for the files you've sent me, i'm so greatful for your help, in no way should you feel the need to appologise to me for a simple sidetracking slip, it's no big deal honestly! Just my thoughts Len, but don't feel obligated and waste your time, giving detailed explanations to Technics Player whom over the years i've noticed pulls apart everything forum members type. Thanks again Len for the files, and also to Larry for the link to Alex Green's demo's Much appreciated! Best wishes for Christmas Peter L
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