Now that the KN7000 is finally close to becoming a reality (premiering at Frankfurt Musik Messe March 13 - 17), I thought it might be fun to predict what new features & enhancements it will include as well as a chance to share our wishlist of what we’d like to see implemented.

1) Improved chord recognition in split keyboard mode
The KN6500 recognizes jazz style (Bill Evans type) rootless voicings in ‘full keyboard’ mode, but unfortunately does not recognize these same chord voicings in ‘split keyboard’ mode. The Yamaha PSR9000/9000pro & Ketron-Solton SD1 (on the other hand) recognizes these chord voicings in ‘split mode’ but not in ‘full keyboard’ mode. Interestingly enough, implementing chord voicing recognition in full keyboard mode is usually far more challenging. I would really like to see Bill Evans type jazz chords supported in BOTH split & full keyboard modes.

My prediction: I can’t wager a bet on this one, but I only hope Technics will follow Yamaha & Ketron-Solton’s lead (in split mode) on this because adding jazz chord recogniation in ‘split keyboard’ mode would be real easy to do, especially since they’ve already successfully implemented it in ‘full keyboard’ mode.

2) Mass Media Storage
My chief complaint with KN keyboards is the outrageous expense it costs just for a hard drive and then having to shell out additional cash for the hard drive backup software too. Other manufacters (Yamaha, Ketron-Solton, etc allow you to install a generic ‘off the shelf’ hard drive and even include (at no cost) the hard drive backup software. Mass storage devices (hard drives, flash media cards, cdrom burners) are relatively cheap now and certainly a lot cheaper than the proprietory 3rd party Keysoft Service hard drive that’s required to be used in the KN6500. Bob Hendershot’s excellent suggestion of a removeable compact flash memory card (128 mg) sounds even better than a hard drive because it’s fast, has no moving parts to breakdown, is removable, and you can get quite a few songs and styles (midi/Technics format) into a 128 mg card. My primary concern with using a CDR-W for storage of styles/songs is the slow access time.

My prediction: Even though I think the compact flash card storage system may be the best approach, I think that, if Technics decides to eliminate the floppy (and I really hope they do) that they will replace it with a CD-RW, because this would provide not only file storage & backup, but could support direct to CD burning of digital audio tracks (vocals) as well (like the upcoming new GEM Genesis will have).

3) 76 vs 61 keys
As a gigging musician who needs the lightest weight compact keyboard possible, I would forego the extra keys. It’s important to note, that in arranger style keyboard playing, you really only need about an octave to an octave and a half max in your left hand (left of split mode) to trigger the auto accomp harmony. Btw, I set the split point at F#2. This leaves nearly 3-1/2 octaves for your right hand to play melody, fills, & solos, more than sufficient I'd say, the same same amount of notes as between G (above middle C) and the top note (C) of an 88 note acoustic piano. For arranger keyboard mode playing, I see no advantage of having 76 keys. On the other hand, if you want to play solo piano . . . that’s ANOTHER instrument!

My prediction: this is a hard one for sure. Yamaha & Ketron went with the 76 note 9000pro & SD1, but they don’t include internal speakers. GEM (Genisis) & Korg (PA80) have stayed with internal speakers and 61 notes. I can only hope that Technics will stay with the 61 note & internal speakers approach on the KN7000. I typically take separate self powered PA speakers (EV SxA100’s) for medium to large gigs, but find that the internal speakers serve as excellent monitors and sound great by themselves for those smaller gig venues & at home personal playing enjoyment.

4) Support of standard midi file format

I really think this is where Technics has a lot of catching up to do. From my experience, at least on my KN5000, it is not easy to convert the auto accomp parts for standard midi file playback compatibility. On my Yamaha PSR2000 keyboard, your arranger created song is automatically converted to standard midi file format to make it easy for anyone with a standard midi file player and/or over the internet (gm midi) to enjoy.

My Prediction: I think Technics will include this on the KN7000. It is LONG overdue.


5) Better use of fills & integrated with variation buttons

The KN keyboards will allow you to use one of two fills available to trigger a variation change (incrementally/decrementally) but only with the internal styles. This is very limiting, especially if you use a lot of custom composer styles like I do. Also, this limits you to just 2 fills, not 4, as my Yamaha PSR2000 has. More importantly, Yamaha’s method of having a separate fill tied to each of the 4 different main variation buttons is far superior and something I really miss with the KN5000. Basically, Yamaha’s system works like this: There is a button setting which turns on/off the ‘fill to’ function. When this button is set to off and you press any of the 4 variations, only the variation will play. When the ‘fill to: variation feature’ is set to on and you hit any of the 4 variation buttons, the associated fills to that specific variation will precede the change to the new variation. A very slick approach imho because this auto fill works when you switch between panel memories as well, even with user custom styles. If I want a fill to occur when using a composer (custom) style on the KN5000, I must remember to press the fill in button (at just the right moment) and then the new variation button too. Can be tricky to ensure a smooth transition. I think Technics needs to follow Yamaha’s lead in this dept too.

Prediction: If Technics did its homework and studied the competition, then they should realize that Yamaha’s method is much better and will implement this on the KN7000 too.


OK, I guess I’ve said enough here. Time to hear from the rest of you now.

- Scott
http://scottyee.com

Oops, almost forgot, Here are two more IMPORTANT things that NEED to be added to my KN7000 feature wishlist:

1) Improve the style & song sequencer 'timing resolution' big time

I don't know about the KN6500, but the KN5000 only supports 96ppq (parts/quarter note). . . Pitiful at BEST ! Minimum acceptable is 480ppq. The Yamaha PSR2000 supports 1920 ppq. AMAZING!

Some people may think that 96ppq is sufficient but this is simply NOT TRUE, unless you're only into Techno, which thrives on robotic sounding rhtyms.

Timing resolution, second only to the quality of the sound sample itself is the single biggest factor in how realistic a style pattern or song performance will sound. The higher the resolution, the more accurately it will capture the live performance.


2) Improved Vocal Harmonizer

We all know about thi one , so I won't go into detail.

I've never guessed right before so I guess whatever I say means just the opposite of what they'll do. . . I don't think we will see a CDRW or a hard drive either. I think we will see much more flash ram possibly even giving us options to replace the factory internal styles with our own preferences from disk. Although I hope for removable standard flash memory like compact flash I don't think Technics has sense enough to use standard OEM stuff and will use something that is unique to Technics. They will keep their unique floppy drive. I do think they will improve the voice processor. They will keep 61 keys and built in speakers. They will support direct midi recording similar to Yamaha. I doubt if they will change resolution in sequencing and they will keep the 96 ppq.

Hope I'm wrong on most of this stuff. . .

Hi Scott,
I hope they sort out the vocaliser because in it's present form it is really not worth having. If they don't or can't then I hope they leave it off altogether.
I also hope that they include a hard drive as standard OR failing that make the keyboard able to accept ordinary hard drives like other manufacturers do already. HOWEVER I predict that they will only include hard drive as an option AND that it will still be a specialised unit at an inflated price.
I do think they will include as standard a cd rewriter as I believe that one of the cheaper panasonic models had one included not long ago?
As for the look....I know this is secondary but superficial as I am I can't wait to see what they come up with this time! When The 6000 came out I thought it was the best looking Keyboard on the market. Since then everyone else seems to have gone the sleek silver route so I wonder what they will come up with???
Whatever happens all this is rather exciting
Tony W

Hi Again,
My mistake It was not a cd rewriter as I had assumed it was some thing they call CD remix play. It was on the SX-MB100 and rather than me explain it (and get it wrong again!!) this is what Technics say it does..

Unleash your creativity with CD Remix Play!
Have you ever imagined that you're part of the band playing the music on your favorite CD's? Dream no more. The MB100 automatically detects* the tempo of a song while a CD is playing and lets you use the four central performance pads to remix phrases. You can add Voice, Scratch and other sounds in time with the beat by pressing the pads or keys, and mix sounds into the rhythm section. You can remix the rhythm too, with the help of the Fill-In button. You can also play along in unison, adding different sounds and mixing musical phrases.


Don't think I would ever use a feature like this but others may find it useful. I had the Roland EM2000 once over and some people raved over the 'D-beam' controller. I never did find a practical use for it. For me the above would be just the same I suspect. Apologies if I had anyone rushing to buy a Panasonic k/b for the cd rewriter !!!
ttfn
Tony

Interesting post, Scott. I heard a rumour some time ago from my dealer that a CD-RW would be included, but I agree with you that Bob Hendershot's suggestion of 128Mb removable flash memory is much better.

One point where I differ with you is where you say that you hope Technics eliminate the floppy. I use that as an easy medium for transferring styles I get from the internet into my KN6000. Since my PC is in a different room to my KN6000 this is really the only option. I certainly don't want to burn a CD each time!

Good to see you're still around, Scott. When you mentioned on the Arranger forum about getting the PSR2000 I wondered if you might be changing your allegiance. Talking of the PSR2000, another wish list item for the KN7000 is a much cheaper price.

Mike

Hi Scott, interesting points, see also my earlier post at
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/002857.html

which is relevant here.
We'll still need the floppy for loading commercial material meanwhile, as long as there are parts of the world not on the net.

The MB100 is just a teenager toy, in response to the Yamaha DJX (flop!) so is not really in the same quality league as the next arranger.

I'm sure I mailed you before about the 6000 having the same drum and voice maps maps as gm, and the apc to smf now allows much easier gm creation. Maybe not as easy as Yamaha, because their stylefile format starts off as midi anyway, but they have only recently put their sequences in ram rather than direct to disk, which was a nightmare for editing. There are pros and cons with each route.

I can't remember the chords on the 5000 now, the 6/65 goes up to added 9ths in fingered mode, and on to 6/9, 7/9, 7/11 and 13ths in full keyboard mode, is that the same as the 5000?

Also you have confused me about fills. The KN5000 has 8 fills per style, 2 fills per variation. Only 2 fills can be copied to the composer.
The 6500 has 8 fills per style, with 8 fills available in the composer and 8 fills in the custom.

The 'fill to' function is the same as Musical Style Arranger On/Off where you can choose to use a fill to change variation or not. You can either use panel memories for your registrations in these circumstances or even better put the registrations in the custom and use the MSA fill. Because you have 8 fills, you have 4 independant programmable fills to go up each variation, and 4 different independant programmable fills to go down the variations. So this is certainly going to be found on the next keyboard.

BRING BACK DYNAMIC ACCOMPANIMENT .... and PUT IT IN THE COMPOSER TOO... that would be worth having with programmable velocity/right hand note timing switching.

76... I agree with you 100%, but then I'm not a piano player...

the rest will be interesting to see...
Alec


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I hope that everything you desire for KN7 will be a reality in future.
And here his my wish... that the same edit possibilities existing in the sequencer will be extended to the composer. Or a interaction
between them. (sequencer-composer or composer-sequencer) so we can use the note edit function
And I would prefer a mormal HD disk more simple and easy to use with computers.
And an extension for a CD-RW.
And of course all your other wishes.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by technicsplayer:
We'll still need the floppy for loading commercial material meanwhile, as long as there are parts of the world not on the net.


Alec, you make a good point, but it would still make sense for the manufacters to start releasing their styles in CD format now. I believe most Windows & Mac application programs are only available in CD format now because it can hold so much more data, and also, CD production costs are so much cheaper. Because of this, the CDRw format has quickly become the defacto standard.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by technicsplayer:
I can't remember the chords on the 5000 now, the 6/65 goes up to added 9ths in fingered mode, and on to 6/9, 7/9, 7/11 and 13ths in full keyboard mode, is that the same as the 5000?


Yes, the chord recognition on the 5000 is identical to the 6000/6500. My issue is about ‘chord voicing’ recognition. The KN6500/6000/5000 in ‘full keyboard mode’ recognizes chord voicings made famous by legendary jazz pianist, Bill Evans. These consist of chords, which omit the root note.. This allows the piano player to (instead) play chord extensions/alterations giving the chord a more complex flavor. The chord’s bass note (in classic) jazz is left to the bass player (acoustic) to play. The beauty of rootless chord recognition in arranger keyboard playing is it allows you to play & sound as you would if you were playing as the keyboard player in a live jazz combo situation:

Here is an example (in the key of C) of a II-V7 – I chord progression which the Technics arranger keyboard recognize in ‘full keyboard mode’:

Chord: Notes played (left to right) as a chord:
Dm9: (F-C-E)
G13: (F-B-E)
C69: (E-A-D)

Here is an example of a two hand voicing popular voicing used by pro keyboard players when playing (comping) jazz blues changes:
Chord: Two hand voicing
F13: (Eb-A-D) (G-C-F)

My wish is that the above type chord voicings could be recognized (by the KN7000) in split mode as well. In the case of the two handed F13 chord, I would like the notes (Eb-A-D) played left of split point to be recognized as F13. My Yamaha PSR2000 recognizes these chord voicings only in split mode. The Technics KN6500/6000/5000,on the other hand, currently recognizes these in full keyboard mode only. My hope is that the new Technics 7000 will add rootless jazz chord recognition in split mode as well. These chord voicings are essential for the pro keyboard players with a background in jazz piano. I am particularly IMPRESSED that Technics was the FIRST arranger keyboard manufacterer to take the LEAD in implementing jazz chord voicing recognition as well as excellent chord recognition, especially in ‘full keyboard’ mode. It’s unfortunate that Korg, Roland, and GEM still do not support this advanced jazz chord recognition. I think this is one of reasons Technics arrangers seem to appeal to the jazz influenced keyboard player.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by technicsplayer:
Also you have confused me about fills. The KN5000 has 8 fills per style, 2 fills per variation. Only 2 fills can be copied to the composer. The 6500 has 8 fills per style, with 8 fills available in the composer and 8 fills in the custom.


Maybe I’m unclear about the way the fills can be utilized on the KN6500 keyboard. I thought the ‘fill to variation’ function only worked with the ‘internal styles’, not the custom composer styles. When I trigger a fill on the KN5000 (using a custom composer style), it only plays the fill itself and does not fill to another variation. I must manually select another variation button or panel memory button right after I hit the fill button. On my Yamaha PSR2000, even when playing a custom (composer type) style, I only need to press the variation button or panel button and the associated fill will automatically play preceding the variation. On the KN6500,. It’s great that you can have 8 fills and 4 independently programmable fills for each variation though. Please explain how the ‘fill to variation’ button works on the KN6500 when using custom ‘Composer Memory’ Styles.

- Scott

Hi, the 6/6500 custom works exactly as a preset would, with and without Musical Style Arranger functions, automatic fill up/down to variation, full music database programability with individual descriptions, music stylist scrolling etc.

The 6000 menus and functions are pretty advanced compared to the 5000, and there is a great deal in there you could not do before.

I see what you mean about the chord recognition.

I would still like a usb connection, with 44.1 kHz output like my Edirol UA gear. Perfect recordings with no analogue anywhere near the laptop. And it could double as a hard disk backup path.

But you would lose some of the (expensive) SX functions. The auto Alpha sort is indispensible with thousands of files...
Alec

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I'd like to see a quicker, easier way to EQ each ACP part, fills, intros, endings, etc., rather than each, one at a time, in the Composer. Don't I recall a screen on the 5000 where at one glance you could EQ any part of the rhythm section that would affect all similar parts within the style?

One "simple" addition to the wishlist -- do NOT remove ANY of the styles available on the 6000 -- just ADD as many new ones as possible.

Hi J Larry,
I can't remember being able to eq each part of the composer in the 5000 in the mixer. You could pan, and switch things on or off like digital effect etc but these would have to be global values. So I don't think the 5000 had part eq available for the composer in this way. Maybe someone with a 5000 could confirm this?

I know what you mean though, because these functions are not in the composer part 6000 mixer. I suppose it is because they can be programmed independantly for each intro, variation, fill etc etc. It might be difficult to global equalise something that has already had each of 8 parts within each of 20 patterns each individually equalised. That's 160 separate parametric equalisations. And that is just one single composer!

The only way would be to apply a global math to each setting, and have a good end stop strategy to prevent overload and distortion in the digital domain. Maybe with more memory it will be possible in the next machine?

First, just a little comment about the KN5000 mixer.

You can set Sound, balance PAN, set VOLUMES, set and adjust REVERB
level, set and adjust DSP effect in some DSP types, turn on off the
DIGITAL effect, select KEYSHIFT, set LOCAL on/off and set MIDI CH or
turn on/off for each part.
However, the AUTOMATIC ACCOMPANIMENT parts are limited in what part/
items that can be adjusted from here, as Alec correctly mention.
Mainly, as far as I can see, it gives you the option to adjust the
REVERB level.

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Wishlist or not. Regarding to the new KN, I wonder if the engineers
at Matsushita / Panasonic / Technics ever look in to forums like this
to see how the comments from the users are?
We know Ketron's people do, and Chris at GM, they even ask and brings
the whishes and comments to the right divisions, and we have seen real
good response, such as in Scott's chord table for Ketron.

I can't remember, even once that someone authorized from Technics have
peeked in and said hello at any forum, or am I wrong?
I guess any whishlist is a kind of waste, because the KN7k is probably
finished at the "table", and maybe some adjustments regarding to the
respond from those "big guys" who visit in Frankfurth will be done?

I remember back in late 80's, or early 90's, the dealers representative
here in this area asked us KN users to make a list about what we would
like add or change etc. for the next model, and also other dealers did
the same thing to bring to Technics at the Frankfurth stand.
I remember among a lot of things I was whishing a larger screen so I
could see more of the measures at the same time without have to "scroll"
and also that the "stars" would be real staves and notes.
Yes, the screen is bigger, but the "stars" still there

Anyway, my whishlist are changed since then, as my needs and the KN's
features also are changed.
So when the 76 keys, the "normal" compability and prised hardware such
as i.e. the HD is a fact, among with good software to edit from the PC,
a far better vocalizer and a lot of space for flashable optional styles
or pattern packages are availiable, and all my KN5000's stuff can be
transfered easily, also XLR in/outputs for the lines and mic., separate
line outputs for bass and drums regardless to the HD, the Dynamic Accomp
function brought back, usable with the composermode too, and and and...
well, then I guess I'm ready to make the next whishlist.
GJ

Here's yet another feature I'd really like to see included in the KN7000:

One thing that's always bugged me to hell (at least on my KN5000) is what a time consuming chore it is to eq the volume level of a 'specific' drumkit part (snare drum, hit hat, or ride cymbal, etc) in a composer style pattern.

For example, suppose I like the drum pattern of a style pattern I just created, but now want 'just the snare part' a little louder (forward in the mix):

Currently, I must to go into the Composer Memory's style pattern 'step record mode' and manually locate each and every occurance of the snare drum part and manually increase the volume level of every note individually (by the same amount, say +10). This can end up to be very time consuming, depending on the number of notes which have to be edited. Only after doing this am I able to re-audition the drum mix in realtime. If the mix still doesn't sound right, I have to go thru the entire lengthy editing procedure all over again.

It would be MUCH EASIER if Technics could implement a "Drumkit Editing" feature which would allow us to 'universally' change the value (increase/decrease the volume level, delete, pan, etc) of just a specified drum part. It would also be great to be able to audition the edited results in 'real time' as well.

Adding a 'drum kit specific' editor would certainly make style pattern editing much easier and more enjoyable. I hope Technics is listening. - Scott
http://scottyee.com

Hi Gunnar,
apparently they do read the forums...

Scott, just saw your point as I wrote this. On the 6 the easiest way of doing this is to put the drum track into the sequencer, edit there, then bring it back into the composer so you don't need to step edit individual notes.
Did I make it clear that that the MSA fill function is the same as fill to variation, except you press the fill and end up at the next variation, rather than press variation and automatically get a fill? but you do have another 4 fills on the way down compared to the 4 on the way up.

If you look at the history, more and more sequencer features find their way into the composer and pads with each generation. Maybe if this continues we could be lucky?

[This message has been edited by technicsplayer (edited 02-07-2002).]

Oh...., have they ever said hello, here I am?
Do you have any whishes, or a problem who need
to be solved??
If so, then I have missed a important moment!
GJ

I did say read, not reply...
you have not missed any important moments as afr as I can see!

One ability I´d like to see most would be being able to add new samples off a disk, which both Yamaha and GEM have had for years now.

Same goes for expandability in terms of using regular computer hardware (memory, IDE drives). If they don´t have this in the new KN7000 I would really feel they are missing the boat by sticking to their proprietary stuff.

Hello again, I would like to add one small thing to the splendid growing wish list. We have a Panel Memory Bank Increment button but it would be nice to also have a Panel Memory Bank Decrement button as well. I know that it is possible to Inc/Dec the memory Banks by selecting the Bank View function but it requires more operations than just pressing a single button, especially if you like to play, with the normal Home screen visible.
Why do 'Half a Job' ?



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Willum

There are three thing I would like to add to the new KN7000, and then I would certainly buy it.

First. I would like to have a easier (and most of all quicker) way to edit notes in the sequencer. When I want to edit for example note length, or want to move the note forward or backward, I must go to note edit. Then select every note seperately, and press a button long enough to see the note move very slowly in the right direction. A very time consuming thing to do, especially when you must edit large amounts of notes. It would be far easier when a trackball sort of thing would be add to the keyboard. Then we just must select the desired note(s) and drag then to the right place. It would certainly would save the buttons around my display, and most of all a lot of time.

Second I would like the ability to add audio tracks, or at least some sort of sampler to the keyboard. This maybe will be a tricky one, especially because the quality of these things is important, but expensive. But it would be much fun to say the least if it is added.

Third I would like to change the audio-in of the keyboard a bit. Now it's just a connection to the speakers, without the probability to change to level of the music. So when I add my CD-player or computer because I want to hear it over my KN6000 speakers, I get this extremely loud audio. Now I must first connect the audio source to an extern audio mixer and then connect the audio mixer to my keyboard. Why not add the ability to change the sound level of the audio-in to the keybaoard, would be very easy, and save my ears.

Well, so much for my ideas, I like the discussions and speculations of you all. It would be very nice to see some pictures and specs of the KN7000 after its presentation in Frankfurt.

Greetz

Hi Dutch player, there is an advance/delay in the range edit menu where you can move the position of a whole group of notes at one time. This sounds like it solves half of your problem. To change the length of many notes it is much easier just to step play new notes on top of the original note with a longer length and then just erase the original note. Much easier than increasing the length of the original note.

The problem with many editing (sequencer) possibilities in the Technics keyboards is that you can only edit individual notes, or ranges of measures. Its the same with this advance/delay function. If I want to record a piano in the sequencer with real-time record. And I want to have a vivid sound, I do not use the quantize function. This is usefull if you want a piano track as background accompaniment (timing is then more important than a natural sound). But if I doesn't want to use the quantize option, I sometimes still wish to replace some groups of notes (most of the time about a quarter or less of a measure). If you want to do this with a very long track it is very time consuming, and the advance/delay function is not really a good option.

I too agree with Scottyee about timing resolution. I always wondered why my piano playing with realtime record doesn't sounds natural any more (I didn't remembered to be that bad a piano player). The 96ppq is offcourse the answer. I usually dicide then to record twice as fast. For example if the music must be played at 60bpm, I select 120bpm in my technics. And then record all over again. At least you have 192ppq then. It usually resolves much of the problem. But you have to record al your tracks again, to adjust them to the new tempo as well. It is an option, but if technics changed the timing resolution, that would result in much more natural recordings. Especially with slow recordings (somewhere beneath 70 bpm).

With all the speculation going on, I wonder what future keyboard upgrades will do with sound quality---both internal speakers or outputs for external speakers. Last evening, Tech Live (on the Tech TV Network), did a major feature on the enhancements to recorded sound represented by the new SACD and DVD Audio formats. Various artists talked about all of the remixing currently going on of "old" records and CDs to the new formats and how dramatic the improvements are, assuming one has the proper playback equipment. The point---could they possibly create a keyboard where the sound output approximates the new higher-quality CD standards and, further, offers the placement of the various rhythm parts in the sound field representing surround sound, or what one hears at a live concert? Just wondering.

Hi,

My wishes:

1) I want a faster and more direct acces to all sounds in the sound group. Now you have to scroll sometimes through a lot of pages to have acces to the sound you like. My suggestion: increase the number of sound group buttons, and/or increase the number of sounds per page (e.g. 2x10 instead of 2x5)

2) same thing with regard to the rhythm groups

3) 2x midi in and 2x midi out connection

4) An option to change the sounds in the custom rhythm group WITHOUT copying it to the composer and changing it there. This option is available for the normal rhythm groups, but unfortunately not for the custom section (why not ???).

5) Last but not least: a warmer sound. In my opinion, the KN6500 sounds "flat". I don't know if the problem lies in the build in speaker system, or if the sounds are sampled this way. I hope the KN7000 has a warmer sound.

When my wishlist comes true, my new keyboard is a KN7000!

regards, Bart

Hi Bart,
in answer to point 4 - because the composer is the edit suite for the custom.

Hi Gunnar and Larry,
As far as changing the sounds of all variations in the composer - this could easily be done in the mixer, but what happens if you have programmed different sounds in acc 1 of var 1 and acc 1 of var 2? The mixer would have to overwrite all 20 individual sound allocations in each single composer, including those you may wish to keep eg I often use edited drums in the fills to punch through the texture on playback. Maybe the answer is to provide an overall override but with an option switch of how much of the composer you want affected by the change. This would satisfy style converters, who may quickly want to universally change an unsuitable voice that came out of a conversion, but also give the flexibility required by others who want maximum programming advantages.

I see your point here Alec, but my wish goes
for only the complete drumsets, it would be a
great option to change all in one operation.
GJ