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#64969 - 01/04/07 01:17 AM Gap when changing panels
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
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Loc: Geraldine, Canterbury, New Zea...
I seem to get a small but noticalbe gap when I change panel memories on my K7. Is this common?
If I upgraded form V 1.4 to V 1.6 would this help?

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#64970 - 01/04/07 03:17 PM Re: Gap when changing panels
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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 1098
Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Alan,

Invest in a Foot Controller, since buying mine I've never looked back.

In case you are wondering where to get one, check the Classic For Sale columns in the Keyboard Cavalcade, there is often one for sale in there.

Audrey

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#64971 - 01/04/07 08:47 PM Re: Gap when changing panels
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
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Loc: Geraldine, Canterbury, New Zea...
I have a foot controller and used it on my K5 for 8 years in addition to 2 other pedals making 6 in all. I tested the "gapping" and it still happens when I push the panel memory buttons bypassing the foot controller. I just wondered if it was a common problem or just happens with me.

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#64972 - 01/05/07 04:46 AM Re: Gap when changing panels
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Registered: 06/15/02
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Loc: Wootton Bassett - Wiltshire - ...
Hi Alan - do you mean absolute silence by 'gapping' or is it a part of a bar elapses before it changes following the tap of the foot that you mean cos I get the latter sometimes but never the former...?
Rog
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#64973 - 01/05/07 09:11 AM Re: Gap when changing panels
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Registered: 11/05/06
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Loc: Geraldine, Canterbury, New Zea...
Hi Rog,
Yes, it is part of a bar passing. It might be small but it is noticable. It is annoying really, as my K5 never did it at all. I did wonder if upgrading to V 1.6 (which I have been unable to do) would fix the problem

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#64974 - 01/05/07 09:11 AM Re: Gap when changing panels
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
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Loc: Geraldine, Canterbury, New Zea...
Hi Rog,
Yes, it is part of a bar passing. It might be small but it is noticable. It is annoying really, as my K5 never did it at all. I did wonder if upgrading to V 1.6 (which I have been unable to do) would fix the problem

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Alan Minnear
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#64975 - 01/05/07 11:25 AM Re: Gap when changing panels
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Aah well it's yer foot mate ain't it - yer slowing down with old age...chuckle. Seriously though I have found that timing is everything with panel memory changing and hitting that foot pedal at exactly the right moment can make all the difference.
Rog
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#64976 - 01/05/07 11:56 AM Re: Gap when changing panels
Walter McLaren Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
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Loc: Borders. Scotland
Try holding down the Pedal a bit before the time and releasing it when needed!!! Walter.
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#64977 - 01/05/07 03:03 PM Re: Gap when changing panels
Retired Offline
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Registered: 07/01/03
Posts: 160
Loc: England
Hi Alan,
I found that turning the equalizer to off, helped me
remove the glitch, when moving from one panel memory
to another, using the foot pedal.
Hope it might help you.
Fred Wren
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#64978 - 01/05/07 03:48 PM Re: Gap when changing panels
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
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Loc: Geraldine, Canterbury, New Zea...
Yeah, I know I'm an old geezer, but I still like rocking! Thanks for the tip re the EQ Fred - I use it all the time. Will try it.

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#64979 - 01/05/07 03:48 PM Re: Gap when changing panels
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
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Loc: Geraldine, Canterbury, New Zea...
Yeah, I know I'm an old geezer, but I still like rocking! Thanks for the tip re the EQ Fred - I use it all the time. Will try it.

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#64980 - 01/08/07 06:10 PM Re: Gap when changing panels
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
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Loc: Geraldine, Canterbury, New Zea...
OK - turning off the EQ did not help at all. However, I noticed that the gapping is really bad on one song but does not happen at all on another. Both are composer patterns and I wondered if I could send them to someone here to find out why one does it but not the other. Any takers?

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#64981 - 01/10/07 03:41 AM Re: Gap when changing panels
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Registered: 01/31/03
Posts: 84
Loc: Busselton, Western Australia
Hi Alan
I have this occur on some files too. A couple of workarounds worth trying.
1) Hit the footswitch in the middle of a bar, instead of trying to synchronise it . It won't change until the start of the next bar anyway.
2) Hit either of the fill buttons,or footswitch controls to same, and imediatly afterwards hit next panel memory button. or footwitch WHILE THE FILL IS STILL PLAYING. Both these work for me on the odd file that this glitch occurs on.
Good luck .
Eddie

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#64982 - 01/10/07 02:45 PM Re: Gap when changing panels
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
Posts: 54
Loc: Geraldine, Canterbury, New Zea...
OK - I've found whats causing it. My problem is that I'm used to a Hammond organ with a real Leslie speaker. The K7 rotary speed is not right to my ears, and its the edited effect that is causing the lurch. I edited the speeds and the windup/slowdown. But the edited effect affects the organ sound not only in the RH, but also all of the acc parts too. Switch back to an un-edited effect and the gapping disappears. What a pain! Can someone give me a solution please?

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#64983 - 01/11/07 08:46 AM Re: Gap when changing panels
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Registered: 06/15/02
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Loc: Wootton Bassett - Wiltshire - ...
Hi Alan
Explain what you are trying to do please. Are you trying to make a better Hammond sound for the right hand out of some other built in organ sound?
Rog
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#64984 - 01/11/07 11:32 AM Re: Gap when changing panels
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
Posts: 54
Loc: Geraldine, Canterbury, New Zea...
That's exactly it Rog. The Technics Leslie defaults are too slow at full tilt and take too long to wind up and slow down. I edited the Leslie effect altering the values and saved it to a panel memory with drawbars. Turning the effect on or off either with a pedal or the button itself, causes a volume dip of 1/2 second that not only affects the drawbar sound but the entire set including drums, bass and all the accs! Very distressing and odd sounding. If I use the default unedited rotary, there is no problem, but it does not sound cool in use (very "nursing home" in my opinion.)I'm trying to set up the Booker T "Time is tight" tune. I am still on V 1.4 in the K7 and wonder if this is the cause.

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