I had a KN7000 about 3+ years ago but when Technics went out of production I went with a Tyros 2. Now that has gone in favour of another KN7000 and I am not disappointed.
I have just one major gripe not with the KN
but with the fact that when you go buy a second hand keyboard such as the KN they never come back with the items that came with the original sale. When I exchanged my KN for the Tyros, I sent every available and plus some when I did the deal. It means that the dealers have sold the items on, separately or the original owners thought they would keep them themselves to sell on.
I just find that sort of thing very frustrating.

PETER...

Indeed, having all the articles that were originally sold wit the 7K is great. The second one I purchased about 2 or 3 years ago was accompanied not only with all the original articles, but a great deal more.
The seller sent along his collection of floppy discs and SD cards...
For several weeks before I actually sent my check, we negotiated over the price and what would be sent along with the KB.....
Maybe you might contact your seller... Perhaps some of the desired articles might still be available...If not enjoy your wonderful 7K anyway....
Enjoy the holiday season as well....

Elizabeth

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Thanks for your reply Elizabeth.
KN7 is still the best keyboard and although I don't need them to enjoy it, it's just nice to have them.
Best wishes for the holiday and beyond.
Peter

Hello Pete,

I can appreciate your concern, but don't give up hope as we are all here to help, so if you find you need something, just post a request on this Forum and I am sure 99% of the time your request will be met.

Audrey

Hi to all
Long time since I posted here, totaly agree with the comments on the great KN7000. I have 2, bought one for backup when Technics pulled the plug.
However I have had a couple of flirtations with the Tyros ( t2 & t3, slow learner) Never took one of them out to a gig, as nothing really suited "out of box" and the editing system is a joke.
However I managed to resist the latest T4 incarnation, it still lacks features that the KN had years ago.
Enough of this, I would like to wish all you wonderful forumers A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY NEW YEAR
Thanks also to Nigel for his great, happy site.

Best to all

Eddie


[This message has been edited by Sandgroper (edited 12-25-2010).]

Reply on this topics remark of T4 incarnation: just have a listening to my newest baby:
http://my.vision-4-life.nl/index.php?id=71

Happy and especially Healthy 2011 wishes to you all.

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I couldn't agree with you more Eddie. I've had the T4 almost four weeks and have spent the best part of 3 weeks trying to get it to work properly. Apparently it has what is described as a 'glitch' but I'd say it has the same problems as the KN6000 in that the volume is either very loud or almost inaudible and the styles tend to 'hang' the only solution being to switch off and restart the keyboard.

Yamaha finally produced a version 1.02 on the 22nd December last since which time, I've been trying to get it to download properly. The keyboard shows the new version as having been successful, but still, some of the styles 'hang'. As you say, the operation system is 'a joke' in comparison to the simplicity of the Technics.
Even though I love the sound and the fact it feels like an acoustic piano, if I can't get it sorted tomorrow, it's going back to the Dealer I'm really 'cheesed off' with it.

Thank goodness, I've still got my KN7000, it may have an old fashioned analogue sound, but at least it's response is instant and a joy to play.

Audrey

A friend of mine is expecting delivery of Ty4 today so I will be able to compare.
Personally, I had a Ty2 for over 3years and although it is a good instrument I have gone back to the KN7000 and it is a far more user friendly and versatile keyboard.

Regards
Peter

YEAH! Let us all stand and applaud our wonderous Technics Keyboards!

Probably a Tyros 4 would be in my "collection" had I ignored the wisdom of several "Zonies"..... Audrey, you were the "decider" for me....

I love your phrase..."Cheezed Off" I suspect it means the same as our "Pissed Off"!!

I am on my way this morning to my weekly gig where my second 7K awaits the insertion of the SD card that stays all week in my "at home" 7K.... All my latest changes ready to apply to my music for my "peeps"...

Today, 12/31/2010.... My Mom will celebrate her 100th birthday as the world rings in the new year! Happy New Year everyone and Happy Birthday to my incredible Mom!

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Elizabeth ... Congratulations to your mom ... hopefully you have those genes ... ...
Happy, Healthy, and Prosperous New Year, everyone ...
t.

Hi Elizabeth,

What a lovely day to celebrate your Mum's 'Centenary' If you lived in England your Mum would have received a telegram of 'Congratulations' from the Queen. Meanwhile I'd like to wish her a very Happy Birthday and perhaps she could tell the rest of us what her secret of 'long life' is.

Good luck to you both and a Happy New Year to everyone.

Audrey

TONY... Yes, I do have my Mom's genes! We sound alike over the phone...Dad always had to ask which one of us was calling!
AUDREY...Yes, For me, the whole world celebrates my Mom's Birthday! GIOVANNI sent an email to tell me your Queen would send Mom a congrats if she were a Brit... When we talk on the phone later, I will tell her that.

Thank you all for your nice comments..
Now back to the great 7K??
Elizabeth

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Yes, I also remember the KN7000 as a great keyboard. And Panasonic was stupid to stop developing on. Since last 4 years I have played Tyros 2, 3 and now 4 and got used to them. I am sorry to hear about Audrey's problems. The Tyros 4 has amazing sounds as not heard ever before on a keyboard like the SA2 Sopran Sax, Grand Piano, Vintage guitar, SA2 Jazz and Celtic Violin, etc. And I don't have any problems with the keyboard, like hanging styles, or whatsoever. Again sorry to hear.

Thsi is my last Tyros writing on the KN forum

I finaly like to wish you all a very Happy, Healthy and Musical 2011.


Kind regards, Fred

Hi Audrey,
Sorry to read of your problems with the T4.
I have kept coming across bits that you have posted both here & on YPKO and followed them (along with those of many others) with great interest because I have also ordered a T4 (expect it in around 2 weeks).

Like you, I have a Technics KN7000 and then bought a Tyros 3 and, like you, I also had quite a hard learning curve with the T3 but have managed to suss out just about everything I need to know.

My KN7000 is still my favourite keyboard and looks like holding that position forever. It's operating system makes Yamaha's look as though it was knocked up in 5 minutes without any real thought at all. I should stress that my purchase of a Tyros was only insurance for if my Technics dies on me but a range topping keyboard should reasonably be expected to satisfy the buyer in most ways - up until now, my T3 has failed this test.

As I have not been totally happy with the T3, I was undecided whether to move onto the T4 but thought it's got everything the T3 has and then some extras so it must be a bit better. Having taken the plunge, I now find myself filled with dread at this move and this is not allayed by the fact that most of the Yamaha fans seem to think it's normal to have to mess around with so many settings just to do something which the KN7 did straight out of the box.

I sympathise with your problems and hope & pray I don't suffer the same because I've found that the quickest way to become unpopular with the Yamaha fans is to post anything other than praise when discussing a Tyros.

What can I say except that the KN7000 is still King and why, oh why, did life have to be so cruel to us devoted Technics lovers.
Tony

Anthony - the best insurance would have been to buy yourself a back-up KN7000....chuckle...

Hi Roger,
I would have done that if I could have found one at the time and I even wish I had kept my KN6500 now.

I am also quite fond of Roland & Ketron too but Roland seem to have done a Technics and Ketron seem unable to sort the bugs in the Audya.

It would have been good if more manufacturers produced modules just to add some fresh sounds and styles to the mix when playing the KN7 but, in my dreams, I still want a KN8000 - I know I'm not alone too.

There is one for sale since yesterday on Kenneth's site:
http://www.kn7000.net/news.php

Actually we are very well served on this site regarding styles & sounds, not like the Yammy site where style swapping is verboten. For example, Bill Norrie has a great collection of styles on his site. which he freely makes available ( Thanks again Bill ) Also, when downloading these & other "user styles" it payes to check the user sounds section. There are some fantastic "tweaked" sounds in there at times. Some of these sound as good, or better than the much vaunted " super articlation" sounds, and with no need to press a button. A great example of this is a selection of country guitar sounds in several user styles that I have come across.
Also we are blessed with great after market assistance from such people as Alec Pagida, whose book left any manufacturers manuals for dead, and has work arounds for many features.
Also, a problem never seems to go unanswered for long here, long may it last.
Best regards to all

Eddie

as an addition to my original posting.
I went to an organ society concert last wednesday --Chris Powell,very good --- and one of the members, who new I had gone back to a KN7000 came up to me and presented me with a gift. Something which was sadly missing from the software when I bought the keyboard.
!!! A BRAND NEW, UNOPENED/UNUSED 'SD JUKEBOX' SET.!!!
He had a KN7000 until about 3 years ago and traded it in for a tyros 2 and has since moved on to a LOWREY SENSATION. So I've now got the best christmas gift ever.

Peter b

I have to agree with what Eddie said 100%. We still have some very knowledgeable people on this forum who are always very willing to help out when needed like Alec, Bill and a host of other 'experienced' members - my sincere thanks to all those who have helped me in the past.

One example of finding great sounds, I have always wanted a good Hank Marvin sound. Unfortunately I have never really liked the electric guitar sounds on any of the KN keyboards I have owned, even the fantastic KN7000. I finally found that sound listening to Bill Norrie's 'Apache' by far the nearest I have found to Hanks guitar on a keyboard.

Long may this forum continue

Glen

I don't know why people bother with the Yamaha Tysos's judging by the comments regarding them. Stick to Technics you can't go wrong! Derek

EACH TO HID OWN ,DEREK. I DO AGREE WITH YOU THOUGH.
THE TYROS' HAVE VERY GOOD SUPPORT BUT THEY ARE NOT AS USER FRIENDLY AS THE KN7000.


PETER B