Hi!
My Motif ES8 is configured to respond and sync to MIDI clock. However the An1X plug in board seems to be ignoring it.
I’ve scrolled through the menus and found nothing regarding MIDI sync in the plug-in board section of the Utility mode.

Can someone help?

-ED-

I think the problem seems to be clear: Your synth is thirsty! Give it a beer (or better two) and it will sound better for you...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

Bar fight?

-ED-

We are on bar time in here and midi clocks don't cut it
If It aint off topic it aint BAR talk
Bebop

Why do YOU have such a problem? I see in you the new 'master of synths' and you will tell ME that you can't fix this problem, heh?

The answer is absolutely easy, my friend....
...but I don't know it...

Did you try another midi cable? Sorry for this question...
Try it with another synth! If it shows the same attitude then the interface electronic of your ES8 must be damaged.
Maybe your OS crashed (such things can happen) and the midi interface couldn't re-initialize itself?

There are so many posibilities but at the end...I tell you, my friend...at the end it's always the same. Give it a beer (or two) and it will work good for you...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

I guesss for most people who have good eyesight programming synths is as easy as looking at the front panel.
Provided they are not idiots of coarse.

Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of being able to see front panel displays. I can only do it with a really strong magnifying glass and it gives me nothing but headaches. Literally.
So whenever I get a new synth it takes me a long time to get used to all the menus and go by memory and feel as in oppose to rely on vision (of which I have very little left). I guess some kids find it funny but I don't.

Anyhow, the problem was easely solved because the PLG150 has its own MIDI clock and it is enabled per patch. To save myself the trouble of having to enable it for over 256 patches I simply set up a Sysex button in Logic and right now it is as easy as dialing up a program that I want and then clicking the mouse once.

I'm kind of surprised that none of the MOtif owners here could spare a minute to answer my question. Especially if they knew the answer.

-ED-

Well there aren't all that many readers here, so maybe none of the Motif owners saw it. Try posting it on the General Arranger Forum.
DonM

Well, I don't know how much motif players there are but I'm absolutely none of them. You know it, I'm playing a Gibson and a Kurz...

I think the most of the motif players are involved in the OT vs. non-OT controverse which started in General Arranger Forum yesterday. I hope this will end soon...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

Achtung Sheriff!

I see you have a Kurz. Is it an arranger kb?

I thought I saw a post somewhere where they were making one. Anyone know about that?

BTW,all my ancestors were German.

I've decided to start a thread on were your ancestor's came from. Hope you all join in. I'd like to hear from the Sheriff on that too. I'm curious how far back you can trace your ancestor's.

Scott Langholff
http://www.ScottLMusic.com

[This message has been edited by Scott Langholff (edited 04-28-2005).]

I know that you don't have the Motif Sheriff,
If anything you are one of the people who tried to answer my question and stick to the subject instead of just goofing around.
Goofing around rules BTW.

That's what the bar is all about.

Piece.

-ED-

Yes!!! ED, Slower and me talked about Kurz in this thread: http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum1/HTML/003427.html

I guess the K2661 could be a little bit like that synth what you're searching for.

BTW: I visited your thread about family's history. It's very interesting...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

Ed,


I have the ES6 and the AN1x plugin. Many of the presets have their own tempo built in, and in their original state, they won't sync to either the Motif's sequencer or an external tempo. You can change this, but you'll need to save your edited voice to a user voice.

You can sync the PLG150-AN voices that have arpeggios or step sequences to the Motif. Here is how:

From VOICE mode select your PLG AN VOICE press EDIT press TRACK button #1 - this selects the PLG150-AN Element level edit pages press F4 Native
Find TEMPO parameter Use the DATA WHEEL to turn tempo all the way down to "vce"

Press INC/YES once to set tempo = "midi" Store your PLG Voice This will sync the PLG150-AN to the MOTIF clock.
It should also sync the voice to an external clock.

It's a bit of a pain because you have to do each voice your going to use, but alas, this is the only way I know of, and I got it a while back from Motifator.


Regards,

AJ




[This message has been edited by Bluezplayer (edited 04-29-2005).]

Thanks,
Yesterday I thought that I got it, but I ended up doing something else.
Now I’ll just have to wait ‘til my wife gets home so we can find that darn edit button.
That’s what happens when you use software editors too much!

It is actually the colour of the Motif that really screws me up. I’m used to the usual (white letters on dark panels) the Motif has it the other way around. The front panel is metallic and the letters are almost invisible to me.
Well, they are invisible since I can’t find the right buttons….

Yeah, this makes me laugh too. But what can I do?
I have no problem programming synths that I’m used to and if that is not the case it is usually a nightmare.
Especially with all the funny colours and layouts that nowadays synths have.

-ED-

My biggest issue with the whole thing is that I am married to the computer when I want to do any meaningful editing in the AN plugin.

That might sound strange coming from someone who predominatly uses softsynths and brings his laptop to gigs, but there are those times when I just want to be able to control my only hardware analog ( ok plug in modeled analog even ) without having to use a computer. The other thing I don't care for very much is that I have to edit each preset and save it as a user voice in order for it to integrate with the ES' effects section. Fortunately, that can be done without the computer.

Anyway, my rant is done ( lol ), and the AN150 plug in itself is actually pretty good sonically, at least to me.

Good Luck Ed.

AJ

Yes, using the PLG150 AN is no walk in the park.
Especially from the front panel.

I have some other hardware analog modeling synths like the Waldorf Micro Q and Novation NOva and editing those two is as easy as it gets. Everything can be done with knobs. May be a couple of shift buttons here and there but that's it.

But even the original n1X wasn't too easy to tweak. So, Yamaha choose to rely on software a bit too much. Oh well, what can we do.

BTW, could you tell me a little bit more about your computer setup?

I know you've been asked this question a lot. I myself (even know a Mac owner) haven't used my PC for music much and lately I've been toying around with the idea of getting my ThinkPad (IBM 3Ghz 512 RAM) to do some synth editing and VSTi soft synth stuff.

What have I to read? Changing from Mac to PC?
Oh, ED, you don't want to leave me, do you? Please, do not! Staaaaayyyy!!!

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

Oh,
Would you quitt making assumptions of this sort!
Ed is a Mac guy – period.

I just want to make my $3000 laptop a bit more useful than it is now.

I think I’ll just go with some basic USB or firewire card and some very simple free VST hosting applications.
Just to mess with when I go to vacations. I used to do that stuff on my old laptop, but ever since I bought this new guy I haven’t at all used it for anything but sirfing the webb and downloading music.
Unlike my G4…
And I’m still going for a G5!
That one is just a couple of months away.
-ED-

It is done!
My PLG150 N is now in sync with MIDI.
Off I go to convert all those fricking patches.

-ED-

Jubilee!!! ED isn't lost for Mac!!!


Ah, and you didn't need the two beers for your synth?
That's good!!! Here we go again...
...here I have a beer for you...and the other is for me...
Cheers!!!

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

[This message has been edited by Sheriff (edited 04-30-2005).]

Cheers Sheriff,
Since I don't drink any alcohol what so ever you can have my beer.
I'll stick to tea.

-ED-

Oh nooooo, one musician more has changed to the other side...

Well, I have two beers now...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

[This message has been edited by Sheriff (edited 04-30-2005).]

My laptop is very simple Ed. Just a 2.8 gig P4 and 1024 mb ram. The hard drive is a mere 40 gb, but I'm going to be upgrading that eventually. It also has a USB quattro soundcard / midi interface. It's basically the "synthesizer" and effects box portion of my setup. I sometimes run my Motif ES midi output into it as a controller, via Usb. I do have Sonar 4 on it, as well as FL studio, so it can become a portable recording daw as well, but it's main purpose is to be the host for my Vst's. The Vst's on it include Absynth 3, Pro 53, Jamstix, Imposcar, NI's B4, RGC Pentagon, Chris Gill's Superwave series, and Arturia's CS80v and Moog Modular. Effects include various kjerhaus and Voxengo plugins, Ampltitube and Guitar Rig, and the Antares microphone modeler. I also have Steinberg's Hypersonic, Edirol's Super quartet and Kontakt, with several commercial and freeware soundfonts, and quite a bit of samples. The samples are the reason I need to upgrade the hard drive. It's getting filled up quickly.

My PC ,a 2.4 gig Athlon with 768 mb of ram and 80 gb hard drive, is the "tape recorder", and sequencer-daw, and that's where I'll normally use Sonar and those type of apps, especially if the laptop is running some CPU intensive plug-ins. I also use apps like Jammer pro and even Band in a Box, and if need be I can simply switch the Motif Es to non usb midi mode and run it into the PC as a controller via midi cables into my Midiman Audiophile card. I also kept my SB live, mainly just to host / edit soundfonts. I use Mackie Acuma labs plugin, along with a few Voxengo plugins, Steinberg's wavelab, and sometimes Adobe Audition for mastering.

So, I have a good bit of stuff, I guess, but neither computer is very extravagant. My next one will be a dedicated machine, with a couple of seperate hard drives. Stripped of as much of the unneccesary windows apps as possible, although in both of my current computers, I've removed as much as I can think to get rid of.


I might even bite the bullet eventually and get a basic Pro Tools system, and some higher end soundcard / midi interfaces, since we are slowly moving more toward making this a commercial studio setup.

I'm not even entirely sure that Pro Tools is worth it, or that it's going to be so much better than what I have now, but .. it's generally what the pros use, for better or for worse, and I suppose most modern studios have it, although I see Nuendo in a few as well.

AJ


[This message has been edited by Bluezplayer (edited 05-02-2005).]

Why not a SCSI barebone? You would need a SCSI card for PCI slots only and then you could connect your SCSI drive tower. It works fine and SCSI is mostly the better choice than IDE...


Nuendo isn't really a studio software. Nuendo was made by Steinberg for building trailers and videos. It's the better choice if you plan to create your own movie with soundtracks.
For working in studio surrounding Steinberg has built its Cubase MX/SX (a modern version of my Cubase Audio).
Sonar4 seems to have a little bit of both programs. For this fact Sonar4 isn't very expensive. Maybe I will buy some new studio equipments but as long as my Falcon is running I won't really need it...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

Thanks. When I decide to go shopping, I'm going to have to look you up Sheriff. I have a pretty good working knowledge of midi and how to integrate and work with software, but there is still much for me to learn about hardware I think.

I suppose I could "get by" with Sonar.. lol.
I did some tracks for a local artist at a smaller studio near Woodstock a while back. I did not get a chance to lok at the entire computer setup, but I know he was using Nuendo, somewhere in there, because I saw it. I'm no expert on Cubase or related stuff though. I used it a little on the Atari Platform, but went to cakewalk on the PC. I don't know how many pro studios are using Sonar though now. I plan on researching a good bit before we do anything major though.

AJ

Okay, you're right, I have to add one thing...

Nuendo isn't really a studio software BUT you can use it for that too. Nuendo provides the ability to work in network surrounding. You can use vst and mix it with movies, waves and some more stuff. Each computer in this network can work with a part of the whole arrangement.
You can use (for example) one PC for supporting the video tracks, one PC for supporting vst, one PC for supporting wave tracks and one main PC for collecting all parts into one arrangement - this can be done in real time! And that's really professional I mean...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

Pro Tools was indeed once considered to be sort of a world standard for har disk professional studio recording ; those days are gone.
Sure, one can spend the mega bucks on Pro Tools setup but is it really wirth it?

I used to record with digidesign hardware years ago and back then there wasn't anything besides TDM anDAE that did the job. Today there are so many other options...
So many I can't even fit them onto this page.

BTW, even when I used Digi hardware I used Logic as a front end. I find that even though they make good hardware their software is rather limited and is designed for sound engineers who live in the SMPTE world as in oppose to musicians who just want to write music,
So AJ, if you are planning to expand your setup then expand the hardware side of things. Stick to using the software that you are comfortable with.
Mind you, being a software fanatic by hardware I mean computers and audio interfaces.


-ED-

[This message has been edited by 3351 (edited 05-03-2005).]