Who thought that ATARI lives on?
Ten years after the out of the great computer designer and manufacturer a new computer will appear under the sign of ATARI - the COLDFIRE!!!

Spend a little time to their project if you remind your 'old' ATARI as a good fellow...

Here is the link in...

...english ...german

Have fun - and dream of a better computer world... ...together with me!!!

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

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What are the main diferenties between Atari and PC sistems??I never had Atari...long time ago I saw one that friend of mine had...

Oh, I thought it said "Mac"!
Darn,
Well, next time you post about a Mac let me know.


-ED-

Ouch...that hurts!!!

But it is possible that the new Atari will cost as much as a new Mac but nevertheless for me the Atari will be the better choice because of ABSOLUTELY NO M$ SOFTWARE...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

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I had an ATARI seems many years ago now....and many happy days I remember midied to my keyboard.

Hm, I think the main advantages of an Atari versus a PC are:

1. the OS came and will come in a ROM
2. the OS is very small (under 8 MB)
3. the multi-tasking is preemptive not cooperative
4. the hardware was and will be concepted for midi/music like no other computer system was ever made
5. the hardware was and will be concepted for graphic/games in a quality like the PC will never reach (only the Mac reaches toward it)

But the Coldfire isn't ready yet. There was a first little success as the developer team ran a rudimental form of the Atari's MiNT kernel on the evaluation board. I hope they will reach out more in the next time...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

Well, I guess I should explain myself since reading between the lines is a gift that most of us can only dream of.

Being visually impaired I can't really work with computers that have no screen magnification support. So I wouldn't be able to use Mac's without inLarge and Universal Access or PCs without ZoomText.
To expect Atari to come up with similar software is to live in a dreamland. And odds are, if they even come up with anything like it it won't work as well, cost tons (or be free and crap) and the support for it will probably be n/a.
Plus, I can't imagine them trying to compete with Apple or even the crippled IBM.

Sorry man, passion for old Ataris is one thing (and we all share it BTW) but the practicality of owning one today and expecting to get as much out of it as one can get out of their Mac G5 is another fantasy.

-ED-

That's the strategie of MS (and sometimes Linux?) but not the one of Atari. TOS was a stabil operating system because it was small. All other possibilities that the hardware provided came as a support of a special program (special to its function). This concept is the best you can find.
Why trying to put all programs in the OS with an army of programmers because it must be released within the next half year. Do you mean you will get a qualified work out of it? I don't think so...


I don't share this opinion because the 68k CPU was lightyears ahead of all the other CPUs. In 1996 we had a MC68060 CPU@66MHz that brought us 110 MIPS and was designed with an internal 64x64 bit multiplicator. No other CPU in 1996 has reached toward such high performed parameters including the first 3 Motorola's PPC CPUs.
Can you imagine? A CPU@66MHz is running faster than my old AMD K6/II @500MHz which ran even faster than a Pentium III @600MHz. I tell you if the new Atari will come the rest of the computer world will search for a new income...

Sure at first we 'Atarians' will be left behind the others because we only have some older programs to offer but they are mostly better than actual PC software.
One of the most advantages on Atari computers were the many competent software developers which made exclusivly good software products. Also the public domain market supplied many good programs for the TOS world.
BTW: Wasn't PD an invention by the Atarians?

Otherwise, Linux started with nothing more than a server kernel but what's on now? Linux kicks Windows away because the users did learn...

What do you have today? Many programs without any sense and a hand full of rain...


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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

You will find that to your disappointment I really know far less about computers than I do about mixing and recording.
Sure, I understand the basic differences between different platforms and languages, but that is as far as it goes.
Sometimes you are way over my head ! LOL

So with all of my arrogance, and un-educated approach of a narrow minded and end result hungry consumer I only care for things that work and do the job already.
I find that way too many manufacturers have great ideas and big plans for the future but to be honest, more than half of them lead nowhere.
That’s a fact.

So until Atari solidify their great plans and ideas and start making and selling computers that will outperform my brand new Mac, I can’t say that I can share all the excitement.

Therefore – MAC.
The rest is either still in plans or not anywhere near as cool.

-ED-



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I'm really sorry for that!!
Shame on me...


Yes, the Apple bites back!!! *LOL*
They have a good strategy in marketing AND technical production. But look out! Atari had have a similar strategy (only cheaper) and where are they today?
Ok, some missmanagements had also broken their neck, but many developers kept this system on running and more - they made upgrades and built new hardware. I would really like to know where the PC market will be if the last PC were sold ten years ago.

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

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well, don't let it get to your head now.
I was simply trying to say that your overly complicated descriptions put me to sleep.
Well NOT.
But I had to say something in return.

SPeaking of sleep, when do you sleep?

BTW, I'm not too fond of Apple's strategy. Buying eMagic was cool. BUt re-coding and changing the AU standdard in Logic 7 was yet another bitch that really turned a lot of people off. Now I have to pay over $500 to make Waves plug-ins work with Logic 7.
So thank you Apple for changing things again!

Good night Sheriff.

-ED-

Hm, to me it sounds a little bit like you were disappointed by all computers over the world. I hope that I'm wrong...

I sleep when I'm tired.
But now you are the one who is tired so I play a little night music for you on my guitar...


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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

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You know, you are probably right.
Now I am definitely both disapointed and rather amused and entertained by all the ambiguity and unexpected moves. PCs have always been a bit of a disapointment for obvious reasons. Macs on the other hand always did the job but lately Apple have been going through a lot of unpredictable and sudden changes.
I think they can be a bit more suddle.

So today I am staying away from computers altogether and playing guitar.
LOUD!!!

-ED-

Well, it's a cruel world we're all livng in. Everywhere I go I have a sensation of anyone wants calling because of the many handies their ringing, beeping, sounding, tuning, farting...*barf*
Imagine you would go through a quiet forest in mother nature to get a clear mind (and maybe compose some tunes in mind) but then suddenly you hear some undefined whistles and beeps that your sweet dreams will be broken down like the wing of the icebird...


BOOOOORN TO BE WIIIIIIHAHAHIIIIILD...!!!

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

I would have done a lot better my freshman year in college if I hadn't discovered Wizardry on my friend's Atari!

Uh, I've met Wizardry on a PC system the first time. I didn't know it under TOS but the most games were made for Atari and Commodore computers first.

Haha...yes, maybe I would have done the school better too but on the other side I'd have so many things beside gaming to distract from school like music, sports, friends, tv, nature (I played often in the forest). Today I'm a hardware and software engineer who think that it was the best thing I could ever do to distract from school because I've learned so much more out of school than in school. So, to date I'm a great disclaimer of today's school systems...
Learning by doing/playing is the best way to go. I'm still learning on this way until today and so I've reached the highest intelligence values by psychologist's tests... ...hey, they've tested me from time to time because all the teachers thought that I'm a little bit stupid but I was only bored by their stupid school system...

I had the hell on earth because they thought that I'm stupid but the only fact is that THEY didn't undertand ME. Maybe they were too stupid instead of me. It was the pure terror to me!!!
...if I hadn't have my parents!!!

Okay, playing Wizardry is a good training for solving puzzles and troubles. This will trainee your mind. So, this game is a good teacher (also Dungeon Master, Ultima, Bard's Tale, etc.)...

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