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#89649 - 06/12/07 11:43 AM Re: Fran how do you like your new controller KB/LT arranger
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Originally posted by squeak_D:
If any of you guys get your hands on the PCR-800 please share you thoughts with me. I'm very interested in this unit. For the price it "appears" to be one hell of a midi controller--with bonus software for just a few hundred bucks. It looks like a great answer to that "extra computer" I've got laying around.

I'm also very interested in the software synth that ships with the PCR series and how it sounds. Anyways, if anyone test drives one please share your impressions with me.

Thanks,
Squeak


I've been using it for about two months now. Before that I had the PCRM80, which is very similar.
It is easy to use, very light in weight and has plenty of buttons, sliders and knobs to assign.
With the PCRM80, several of the keys stopped working after the unit was unused for a couple of months. I had to take it apart and move the contact strip around a little, and that seemed to correct it. There were many complaints online about this.
So far, the 800 has not shown any indications of having this problem.
I strictly use it as a midi controller for the Midjay, but it is primarily designed to interace with a PC, and comes with a nice software package. Also, technical support was been very good and friendly.
DonM
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#89650 - 06/12/07 11:46 AM Re: Fran how do you like your new controller KB/LT arranger
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Squeak , check it out first..The key feel is better on the Axiom, and it is at the top of most referrals..

BTW: you know I am a Roland fan, but the track record of earlier Edirol controllers is poor..they were designed for computer home use...until this PCR800 model[I am sure it is great]...The Axiom is in this class...made for performing musicians and not just home computer novice[no offense to anyone..just fact]..

The Axiom has more control than the PCR800, and designated software to set it up[Enigma]..You won't go wrong with either of them...but don't base the decision on history of earlier models..

On the downside, or upside..however you look at...It is much more pleasure to play a real arranger as the G70...but for my band use..this Axiom may just be the ticket...especially those two flights of stair case jobs..
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#89651 - 06/12/07 12:11 PM Re: Fran how do you like your new controller KB/LT arranger
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I'll have a look at it Fran.., Some of the reviews for the Axiom haven't been too promising though. Plus (again) the issue of "inconsistent" velocity was brought up with this model too. There's also an issue with the "pads" on the Axiom. From what I've read the problem is that these pads need to be tapped dead center to get the proper response. Which also raises the question why have larger pads if the pressure contact is dead center, and sections of that pad outside dead center would not be responsive enough for drum pograms (it helps to get sound from all around the pad)..??? Pad response would def be an issue with me as I would use those pads extensively to program drums.

I've been wanting to get away from keyboard drumming as (others may not realize), but keyboard drumming can be very hard on a keybed--especially over an extended period of time. I don't know about the pads on the PCR-800--maybe Don can shed some light on that one.

I'll be calling around this weekend to see if any local stores have either models on display--won't hold my breath though, as the stores here just plain suck

Either way there's some changes coming for my set up (and soon). The Fantom X6 already has a place cleared off for it, as well as a space for (either) the PSR-S-700 or S-900. I'm still strongly considering that new lower end 76 key model by Yammie that George posted about.

I have a spare computer, and I wanted to have my second computer set up for recording purposes as well. That new PCR-800 would be able to sit on my computer desk, and not require a stand So the issue of space is gone... (pleases the wife too) I wouldn't need massive studio monitors either. I just find that whole software bundle that ships with the PCR-800 very interesting!

DON HAVE YOU PLAYED WITH THE SOFTWARE SYNTH THAT SHIPS WITH THE PCR-800???? Could you (if you get the time) send me some mp3's of those sounds. I would really like to hear them. I could call you if you like to. Email me if you want.

Thanks!



[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 06-12-2007).]
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#89652 - 06/12/07 12:16 PM Re: Fran how do you like your new controller KB/LT arranger
Fran Carango Offline
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http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.asp?sectioncode=29&storycode=17166


Most of those reviews are the human error problem.
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#89653 - 06/12/07 03:01 PM Re: Fran how do you like your new controller KB/LT arranger
mikeathome1 Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Syracuse NY
Fran are you using a software arranger with this setup? If so which, and how do you like it?
I have a laptop that is doing nothing maybe I should turn it into an arranger, at least for home use. Anybody have suggestions.
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#89654 - 06/12/07 03:26 PM Re: Fran how do you like your new controller KB/LT arranger
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Mike..Yes..this is my whole concept of using a light controller..I am able to play B4 and my other favorite soft synths..I have JammerLive[I like it because it is super easy to use..although I am limited to about 50-60 styles]..I also have OneManBand that reads Yamaha styles...I do want to set the Axiom up in a very complex way,,using all the controllers..If my patience doesn't run dry first...How will you be able to tell if I had it..you say............??

It will be in the for sale section..

BTW: the built in midi interface is great ..saves me the external hook up between my keyboard and laptop...And the USB powered is great too..both via USB cable..
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#89655 - 06/12/07 03:36 PM Re: Fran how do you like your new controller KB/LT arranger
abacus Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Hi Fran
I thought you had a Mediastation, which is designed to use VSTs and is also a totally self contained keyboard.
Curious

Bill
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#89656 - 06/12/07 03:46 PM Re: Fran how do you like your new controller KB/LT arranger
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Bill yes I do..at over 50 pounds..I just wanted a light set up to use with my trio, and this looks like it will work..I have the MediaStation and the G70 for back ups to the Axiom..
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#89657 - 06/12/07 03:59 PM Re: Fran how do you like your new controller KB/LT arranger
freddynl Offline
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Registered: 11/17/99
Posts: 1150
Loc: netherlands
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Originally posted by squeak_D:
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I've been wanting to get away from keyboard drumming as (others may not realize), but keyboard drumming can be very hard on a keybed--especially over an extended period of time.

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Squeak, Why don't you look for a used Roland R 8, Has everything you need for pad drumming and works like a charm.

Fred
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#89658 - 06/12/07 07:20 PM Re: Fran how do you like your new controller KB/LT arranger
Frank L. Rosenthal Offline
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Registered: 03/18/00
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Fran, is getting more committed to the software solution all the time. Once there he will never look back...excellent sound, operation and reliability....it is made to measure (tailor made)!!!

I can now quietly go away and rest in peace knowing music will be made (created) the way it should.

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