The funny thing about this whole guitar scenario is that back in the 60's when I was in a band with guitars, we found the string noise objectionable and the guitar players switched from round wound strings to flat wound strings which certainly is a prettier sound rather than listening to all that scratching as the guitarist slid their hands over the strings. Now they go to great lengths to put in the stuff we tried to take out. Just a humorous obsevation.

But yes, the guitars are incredibly realistic on the Tyros 2, no question about it.

Scott

Scott great example. with this guys playing style one can definately hear all the nuance sounds here. Fret, squeak, slide noises, He does them all and fairly pronounced.

TErry

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Terry
http://www.artisans-world.com/

Yep, it was the same thing with Hammonds and key click, remember? That was supposed to be a fault originally, but it became THE hammond sound, and now no self-respecting keyboard would be without some key click on its Hammond emulation. It's a funny old world.

Ralfaro, No that is Roland's soft synth "Super Quartet"..
It is piano, bass, guitar and drums [66 megs].
It is a VST or DXi software, like my Roland Hyper Canvas..
The sounds are as good as anything I have heard..

Took me a few days to put together a demo with my classical guitar as requested, but here it is. The tune is called Madre de Dios.

No interest in the asked for demo, so I've deleted it.

Terry

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jam on,
Terry http://www.artisans-world.com/

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On a nylon guitar, the bottom 3 strings are not wound. THerefore, you can't get that scrape sound. But, on a lot of the tyros 2 super articulation nylon demos there is significant scraping even when playing in the higher registers. Once you start playing above middle c or there abouts, there should never be string scrape noise, because you'd have to be playing the D string on the 10th fret minimum in order to get the wound string scrape noise on a middle C. Since this is rarely done, Middle C and above would be played on the nonwound strings.

It's a Yamaha demo that was on my old PSR-630 and other Yamaha products too, I'm sure.

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On a nylon guitar, the bottom 3 strings are not wound. THerefore, you can't get that scrape sound. But, on a lot of the tyros 2 super articulation nylon demos there is significant scraping even when playing in the higher registers. Once you start playing above middle c or there abouts, there should never be string scrape noise, because you'd have to be playing the D string on the 10th fret minimum in order to get the wound string scrape noise on a middle C. Since this is rarely done, Middle C and above would be played on the nonwound strings.
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This is why I posted "are we going the wrong way with sounds". They seem to be working so hard on the nuances within a sound, that in turn they're making the sound "less realistic" by doing so.

To a non guitarist who plays these voices they may say--wow sounds great! However to us that do play guitar it doesn't stike us the same way because overbearing nuances take away from the sounds realism.

Again goes back to my post about are the makers in turn giving a false impression of what the instrument is supposed to sound like, and are they in turn changing the players perception of what the instrument should sound like?

I think Yamaha's on the right track with these voices. Maybe it just needs a few more years with some finer tuning. I still say they need to vary the strum and picking velocity on these voices, and not have it constant. Having the velocity vary on these nuances (I think) will produce a much more realistic effect.

Squeak

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